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Old October 4th, 2002, 09:32 PM
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Originally posted by Albert:
A lot of things had to be change to win the war:

1.)start producing maximum 3 different kind of tanks at the same time
2.)keep developping plans for jets, rockets, ... from 1941 on
3.)use paratroopers more, especially to capture islands

1.)let the Whermacht attack the British around Dunkirk
2.)only attack RAF, factories and airfields; not London
3.)invade England
4.)reinforce Africa Corps in 1941, so they can defeat Monty at El Alamein and capture Cairo and Suez at the latest in februari 1942
5.)capture Malta and Gibraltar with help from the Italians and the Spanish
6.)don't let AGC (Army Group Center) head south to encircle the troops around Kiev, let them attack towards Moscow (which would fell in december)
7.)turn north to Leningrad and south to Stalingrad and the Caucasus
8.)use usable jets to destroy last remaining factories
9.)don't declare war on the US, without this the US wouldn't intervene untill it would be already too late
1): like Panzer II (light), III (medium) and IV (heavy)?

2): Agree, if I expect a long war with GB and USA

3): Had been tried at Crete, unfortunately the elite paras and transportation planes were badly mauled there.

1): Agree

2): Tactics: If you want to bled the RAF fighters white you have to attack London: They _have_ to show up.

3): There is a considerable amount of water between Continental Europe and England. Too far to swim. And if Gy invades GB anyway, why jet airplanes and rockets? Don't get this.

4.): "reinforcing Africa Corps" means: take it away from the East Front in Dec. 41/Jan. 1942. Given the catastrophic crisis at this time this was hardly an alternative. Plus that in your scenario, there would be a German "sealion" (sooner or later), even less German troops available (or no African theater at all, depends on)

5.) Gibraltar: No way, Spain wasn't an Axis Ally. If you winn "sealion", Gibraltar woudn't be an issue, anyway.
Malta: I agree principally, but that would be the coup de grace for the already mauled German paratrooper weapon. Plus you can't have both: Seizing Malta AND advancing in Africa AND trying to avoid a complete catasthrophy at the East Front. Too less landsers around.

6.) This had been discussed in detail, just one comment: AGC wasn't able to advance any further out of logistical reasons (July/August 41) and tactical (open southern flank with a couple intact Soviet Armies).

7.) that makes no sense to me, are you suggesting that the German troops didn't shattered their "schwerpunkt" enough as they did historically? I think they did a pretty "good" job in dividing their forces into seperate directions without focus.

8.) ???

9.) Ever heard of FDR's policy "short of war", the cash& carry and lend-lease agreements to benefit of GB, and the "shoot-on-sight"-order, the various "Rainbow" and "Victory"-plans?

Cheers,

[ 04 October 2002, 04:35 PM: Message edited by: AndyW ]
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