Sorry, I want the official designations of the weapons please rather than just a manuracturer (and you are wrong with the first one anyhow). Maybe all the weapons incorporated design features of the early bergmann/schmeisser designs however you can not argue that they are all variations of the same weapon in the same way that you can not argue that all revolvers are variations of the colt Texas-Patterson. So, designations please (and we are assuming here that all the weapons are NOT the same)...

The reason I want designations btw is that once you know which nation the weapons are from it is far too easy just to say 'baretta, madsen, ppsh' (though the latter is defainatly wrong) without specifying which models we are talking about.

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