being vague again Fried ? simply put the gun was quite effective especially with Stug ausf G brigades and abteilungs in 1945. sure without a doubt a 122mm blast is going to knock you out, but the only chance a Pz IV will have is a shot from concealment and a hit(s) from the side or rear of the monster. this is the same application as discussed many times here of the M4 facing a Tiger or Panther. Fact is that during the Ardenne battles a lone M4 was to knock out several Panthers from the rear near Oster, including 3./Kompanie RK winner W-SS Veith of Das Reich. The M4 was soon destroyed by other Das Reich Panthers in the area of Freineux-Lamormenil. The M4 was very hard to detect as the Sherman crew had expertly camouflaged their tank amongst the rubble of the village.

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