interesting question. considering in Normandie that the Us forcecs ran up only agasint a relative few armored units compared to British tank corps to the east. Das Reich facing the Us forces claimed some 220 plus tanks for a loss of 78 of their own. the 17th SS lost all their stugs and probably claimed 15 tanks. Pretty pitiful although the unit as it was adressing to the front lines was continually bombed and strafed losing all its 7.5cm pak 40 and the panzerjüger Abteilung lost all it's MT during a strafing-bombing run. Das Reich lost tanks due to lack of fuel which were later claimed by US P-47 jabos. this happened at Mortain. the soft skinned vehicles strewn all over abandoned and then the US air forces pounded the machines to wrecks climing them as ground victories. Mortain in effect ws a bloodletting on the W-SS grenaider companies trying to capture the humps above them.

As to the British Krops they were hit several times not just Goodwood and it would take some time I beleive to put all the engagements together. the 502 W-SS heavy Panzer Abteilung although losing all it's tiger 1's claimed some 200 plus of the British armor. Cross checking would be needed of course and there is always going to be problems validating ALL British/German armor victories as it would be impossible, as there are still unknowns during personal battles.....we have chatted in the apst about one W-SS Kommanduer Will Fey claiming some 18 Shermans from a mysterious British armor unit that was not even present in the area or so it was stated by one of our forum members. things like this make researching though that much more profitable. Of course it is fantastic to have one such as Sapper(Brian) to give a first hand look as to what really happened on the bloody Normandie front whcih puts everything from a ground tropper into perspective....

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