The Battle of Kursk has come up a couple times recently in discussion, so it seems logical to start a thread on said battle. (Erich- you OK now?

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Of course, what to discuss?
First off, it seems we could get a good discussion going on the possible poutcomes of teh battle- could the germans have won a significant victory? Or was the russian victory inevitable?
Also, you gents know I'm interested in armor. Some new vehicles debuted at Kursk, the Panther and Elephant among others. Did this have any impact on the battle, as Hitler hoped?
And how about the numbers (oh, goody-goody!)? There are a bunch of different sets of numbers surround strengths and losses at Kursk- how close are they?
Any direction you gents feel like going here would be great- Kursk provides plenty of stuff to look into... let's see what comes up!
(maybe if we get going on a number of different facets of the battle, it might be good in posting to let everyone know what aspect you are talking about...)