Hi there!

The "panzerkeil" formation has been questioned if it works or not. I just read that there was a formation called "panzerglocke" the "tank bell", in which the heavy tanks where in the middle and medium tanks surrounded the heavy tanks and protected them. But mostly the texts refer to "panzerkeil". (Of course there were loads of variations, but let´s not get to that at all. If someone´s into that he could tell us more!) Maybe these two were used together depending on the situation and shape of the ground. Anyway if the german and russian losses were the amount we are getting in the latest statistics, the germans got the right formation anyway!

From geocities.com I noted equal losses to what previously mentioned. On 11th july 2nd panzer corps had 213 tanks, 67 assault guns, 39 marder tank destroyers. On 12th july 49 were lost. Likewise I believe that this is after the exclusion of repaired tanks.
the russians had 842 tanks(?) to begin with including T34, T70, Churchill IV, SU 122, SU 76. The russian lossess 313 tanks.The ratio thus being 6.4 to 1.

According to this I start to think that the biggest panzer battle of all time never happened...which is a shame. We´ve been tricked big time.

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