interesting thread gents . . .

really do not feel that Kursk was as important as what it is led to be believed over the many years and yet there seems to be an overproduction of texts regarding the same misunderstandings of this multi-faceted battle every year. For 2005 there were 3 published and in 2006 another 3 are due.

The Germans actually were in a prime position to bust through the Soviet held hills in the sector of the W-SS Korps. With only few Tiger 1's destroyed 3rd SS as well as the other two W-SS units were poised to strike the remaining blows until der Führer decided elsewhere and that the Italien front needed the 1st SS, leaving the 2nd SS at the Mius and 3rd SS revitalizing itself. If you were to follow W-SS 2nd SS Das Reich you would see the attacks wholeheartedly defended in every conceivable way with mass destruction of Soviet armor units during August of 43.
As to the Luftwaffe over Kursk it was a slug fest for the Luftwaffe, so many ground targets they could not miss.
It was only in the winter of 43-44 January to March that the end of the Wehrmacht tide seemed apparent and that doubt would soon follow, that victory in the Ost was in the losing stages.

Berlin was going to happen it was inevitable and the Landser in 1944 knew it, it was just when . . . .

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