Hallo Andreas: You are correct about raiders, and most only carried one or two deck guns (Hidden) but as many as four. This is not including MGs.

Most of the ones seen in Ducumentaries--at least that I have seen and do have teped, show two deck guns. As for depth charges, I agree, I never heard of any carrying them.

As for my KM friends memory, I see no problem with it. He sent me his war service records sometime ago, I will see if I can find them and submit them here. Then mention his time as a Merchantman, serving on Destroyers, and his time with Kaptains Luth and Freiwald.

He was serving on destroyers from late 1939 to late 42, then was transferred to uboats. He was on uboats till the ending of the war. He was part of Luths crew when they claimed the uboat from the shipyard.

DDs did make long voyages, but how long, I dont know.

Take the Narvik, operation as an example. DDs were used as attack ships, for bombardment, troop ferrys and escourt ships and evauation ships. True they werent very successful, but they were there. Im citing this as only one example for lack of time.

PS, thin red line sucked big time.

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