Thanks for the information everone. Yes we got to be careful anytime we shoot old guns. I told my dad what yall said about the Lugar that wouldn't throw the shells out and jammed and he said the Lugar that jammed was being shot woth new rounds and had the problem. When he used a friends reloads with a little more punch the shells recoiled perfect and a new one slide right in. The 9mm rounds/bullets today don't have the same punch power as they did in the war. The K98 from Greg fired each and every round perfectly, they adjusted the sight thing on top and had a good pattern at 200 yards not bad for a WWII rifle and WWII rounds. Both Greg and my dad said it was a smooth shooter. My dad says when the Lugar quits its time to chunk it cause we dont keep guns that dont work anymore. The flintlocks still fire but its alot of mess to do it but we still keep them. [img]smile.gif[/img]