That sounds very nice indeed, T.A...and yes, the Stroberg Lotuses ( Loti ? ) had an awful reputation.

You've jogged the old memory button - here's one I saw John Miles race in 1969 ( ) : -

http://home.swipnet.se/kullman/Lotus...2_France_3.jpg

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