@ chrome: I did not meant carrying a weapon equals being an asshole.
And I don't consider AT ALL you chrome as an asshole. I appreciate some warbirds discussions we had here. Of course this subject is a little hot, but I guess you knew when you wrote the 1st post.
It was a way to show how dumb is the reasoning : "too many idiots / criminals and in general people I got no particular reason to trust - carry a weapon around, so I'm scared and I have to carry a weapon myself."
Too many weapons creates fear and the need weapon, so it makes more weapons around which equals even more fear etc...
anyway chrome, weapons save lives means NOTHING :
Compare France & USA injury casualties / violent deaths for 2000.
This includes criminal/legal (killed by police or maybe militia lol) deaths, accidents, unintentional homicides, suicides, car crash etc etc.
France 22.000 = 0.03 % of population USA 148.000 = 0.05 % of population, so far so good
Now let's consider only crime related homicides :
France : 1.000 homicides by all way, not only firearms (includes poisoning, strangling, eviscerating with swiss army knife, clubbing to death etc etc) : it's 4.5 % of total violent casualties
USA : 16.000 criminal homicides by all way : its 11 % of total violent casualties ! Twice as much ! On these 16.000 casualties, 11.000 are firearms related !!! Almost 70 % of criminal homicides are caused by firearms !
Want more ?
USA year 2000
violent casualaties (all reasons including accidents, suicides, crime etc) : 148.000
on these 148k, casulaties related to fire arms (including suicides, accidents crimes etc) equals 28.000 (19% of above)
on these 28k firearms casualties : 16.000 suicides, 11.000 criminal homicides, less than 300 legal homicides (police shooting criminals), less than 800 firearms accidents.
This proves : the share of criminal homicides into violent deaths is twice as big in USA than in France, almost 70 % of these USA criminal homicides being caused by firearms.
So I ask you chrome : how can such numbers be reached ? Do people in USA have a special affinity with gun crime, or is it just that there are far too many weapons around ?
Really, my point is not that I don't want you chrome or whoever to carry a gun, my point is that I don't want you chrome or whoever to get shot.
@ skunk : of course you should not be denied to protect yourself against bears, but many armed people don't live under the threat of brears.
[ 13. January 2007, 06:04 AM: Message edited by: chocapic ]
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