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Old May 2nd, 2003, 07:36 PM
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No....I hadnt heared that from Ghandi..

Dont think none violent demonstrating action would have had much affect against Hitler somehow...

Think its a large case of countries like India not realising or actually realising but dont care as long as Occupying force are gone ...which they saw Brits as..same in Egypt etc..didnt look at what would fill the void afterwards..

We certainly didnt control these places as an act of generosity..or a call to educated the masses of the world..we did it for trade..and ourselves not for Indians or Burmese or Egyptians..but no different than many other nations doing the same..

The Indians wanted to administer their own country..and why not..right or wrong..their country...Same as the educated classes of the timme In Egypt..Problem is...if it had happened before ww2 then Egypt and Sadat etc would not have been allowd to keep their independance and it would not have been the Brits that would have taken it away..

Same for India..no matter how much I look on Ghandi as doing the right thing for his people..if he had achieved what he achieved before ww2 then it would have been short lived in my view...Its might sound contradictory of me..but Brits holding on to India and not letting Ghandi and others have independance before ww2 did India a good service..and ourselves of course..The main problem with British imperialismm is that we never knew when it was time to go...

Japanese as an example used our own imperialism as a weapon against us...and successfully too..

But we were not the beneloant imperialists some in my own country would have us believe...Looking at our history I see the need for Empire and trade at various times of our history and im not totally against it..im not the lefty some think I am..well not that far..

Bt a good old Indian incident and why maybe some Indians and same can be said of Egypt or Burmese..peoples, and teh reason for Bohse etc...could be seen in the likes of Amristar..the Godlen Temple incident..??

Why the heck should local populations not look at the likes of the Nazis in early days before war and look at the enemy of my enemy is my friend when we had many such examples..Im not going to be political here..but I can see it all happening again now..they say one should look at history and not repeat the same mistakes..that does not happen in my view...we have a circle that is repeated time and again in mankinds history..

Nasser, Sadat and others in my view can be excused for their original views..

Sorry for long winded post..
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