Well, I do like the country and the culture much much more than the German one. For someone so bohemian and Mediterranean as me, Germany isn't as attractive... [img]smile.gif[/img]

Well, I think we should start by talking about how the different commanders handled their troops. We know that the Italian countryside meant a very difficult terrain for the attackers and that it provided everything that a defender needs. General Von Senger und Etterlin performed in the way it should be done. And above him you had the strategic genious of marshal Keßelring.

We should discuss too about if Alexander was the man for the supreme command. Maybe he had the skills, but not the personality to get things done with someone as disobedient and egocentrical as Clark. Maybe the Allied Corps commanders were good, but they were mistreated and forced into useless combats by almighty Clark. [img]graemlins/no.gif[/img]

As you say, Erich, the American divisions (specially the Texans) paid a huge cost for Clark's stubborness in trying to cross the rapido river without enough supplies, preparation, forces and facing horrible terrain and a well-dug-in enemy...

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