Hello Juan, I had completely forgotten about this thread and I am flattered that there is another who is interested in my Vet/friends of U 181.

I have sad news to report that Herr Dieter Hille, is another who has recently passed away. I am not sure how many are left as of this writing.

On that photo, I have never seen this photo before but, if you want to make a copy of it, I can suggest that you might want to send it to my friend: Karl Kaiser who might be able to identify the men in the photo. I don't recognize either of them off-hand.

Anyway, if interested in contacting him, as he recently changed address, send me a PM. I will give you some instructions in private as well.

Also, Gunther Bartussek, (U 181 crewman) spends about 6 months of the year in Spain. I no longer have his address but, you can get that from Herr Jurgen Weber of the Munich Submariners Association.

Wish I could help you more nat this time-take care and best regards. (Carl.)

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Lost are only those, who abandon themselves) Hans-Ulrich Rudel.