Holy shoot, you have 4 rep squares while I still have 3. Who's boots have you been licking?
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For the 11,567th time... 
Air power did not destroy the panzers directly.
It denied them mobility, shredded their comms and cut their supplies, it ravaged softskins and forced vehicles to constantly take cover, it sewed confusion and fear & generally throttled the panzers freedom of action, but it simply didn't destroy the armoured vehicles to as great an extent as legend has it. The execution was performed by ground forces (and mechanical failure).
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Again? groan...
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I don't know why but the Jgpzr IV/70, is a current favourite vehicle, just looks right (though it still suffered from some of the more conventional mark IV's problems).
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Plus the muzzle in the mud and busted front suspensions syndrome
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Been reading about testing recoilless guns fitted to German tanks, not in the conventional sense of a counter charge or blast going backwards but 'standard' guns solidly mounted to the chassis with no recoil system at all, the entire firing shock going through the trunnions. If this was the way they'd have had to go in an effort to save materials it seems that Mk. IV's suffered rather badly on testing and heavier vehicles were (obviously) far better at taking the strain. re reading to do on that though.
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Now that I'd like to see! Weld joints cracking open, bolts shaking loose, gun mount cracked up. Do you believe you would even be able to spend one single vehicle ammunition load before the thing just shook itslef all loose?
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I know we could refer to the '67 Syrians as an exception
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Those were glorified pillboxes only.
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Hmmm... rambling again...
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We're used to them, carry on!