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Old October 29th, 2007, 04:59 PM
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Default Re: Operation Barbarossa Day

Before the battle of Moscow, Stalin had the last word on everything. He over ruled not just Zhukov's advise but many other's as well. Explain to me how Zhukov is responsivle for Kiev if everything was done against he's wishes and only on the orders of Stalin?

Nothing to defend in Leningrad you say? Do you forget the fact that over 500,000 Germans were present there? Or the fact that the decision to starve Leningrad was made only after Leeb advance was halted after Pushkin by Zhukov and his counter attacks which stabilized the front?

As for Minsk and Smolenks, Zhukov warned Stalin of encirclment and Stalin refused to retreat and hand over the cities thus sealing the fate of the troops... This is also Zhukov's fault? As for their large numbers, they were only that. They lacked everything else including ammunition, armor and air support. In fact I remeber readint that Timoshenko stated that some units had not more the 15 tanks 8 of which were the BT-series.

As for the Pripet Marshes you are incorrect, Zhukov was against this STRONGLY as it was soleley Stalin who believed that the main force would come through Ukraine and the theory of attacking Romania is unsubstantiated there is absolutely no shread of evidence which would support this.

Just out of curiousity, if Zhukov was to blame for all of this, then what does Stalin deserve credit for?

I mean no disrespect, but you sound like a conspiracy theorist to me. Perhaps this is why there are so many "maybe's" in you previous posts?

I wouldnt buy into Suvorov's novels too much
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