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Originally Posted by jean2005
Well, by this way ok 
But I tried to bring some serious information here.
I realized, to my disillusion, something stinks here. Not only Zhukov lost some battles, even some major battles, but he had quite serious part in the greatest defeat ever (which will never be overcome, I hope). This defeat is, of course the time of first months of "the Great Patriotic War", because to lose about 17,000 tanks in such a short period is indeed somehow unusual. |
This statement is very misleading. Zhukov was NOT in charge of these tanks nor did he or any other Russian leader other then Stalin had ANY say in military opperations at this time unless and only unless Stalin approved. These 17,000 tanks ( the BT-7 and the T-26 ) for the most part were nothing more then pee shooters compared to the German Panzers.
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I know, the greatest part of this played Stalin, but not as big, as a most of people believes. Interesting is, that especialy Zhukov was very busy with blemishing of Stalin, maybe he just tried to hide something about his own actions?
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Not as big? This once again sounds like nothing more then an opinion, backed by no facts. Could you elaborate please?
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Btw., 150,000 and 500,000 is rather a big difference, I think.
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This is a big difference indeed
Also could you explain as to why you would have a traitor such as Vlasov, be number 1 in command of the Red Army?