Re: Operation Barbarossa Day
Thanks for such a huge response. Now I have lots to think about again.
But why you quote some of my text and answer to something different? Your answer shows to me this: it was Budyenny (and Timoshenko, but later), who requested to withdraw from Kiev and not Zhukov, so Zhukov lied in his memoires. Correct me, if I am wrong.
I wrote he was responsible for battle of Kiev, its true, but it was meaned he was responsible for creating of conditions, which led to that battle. There were some major battles in the summer of the year 1941 and many futile soviet attacks (i.e. Yelnia?), whose depleted strategic reserves of RA and at the end that led to possibility to free Guderians 2nd panzer group for attack and advance to Konotop and further and thus to make one half of the ring around Kiev. But I have to admit I do not know much about that, because I just started to search about that and I do not know what of this is true or not true.
Today I was thinking about another older reply here, those one about Stalin and his authority above all orders and commanders and I found something strange. If some operation was success. than Zhukov proudly claims: It was my work. If it was not success, than it was Stalin, who was responsible for that, because he could overrule any order or leader. The only conclusion, that appears to me is, that if Stalin realy overruled all, those winned battles are his credit, and those lost naturally too and Zhukov then lies about his claims to win something. And if Stalin did not overruled everything, than Zhukov lies again, this time about those lost battles.
/well, last nine lines took me at least half an hour to write and I hope someone will understand this, as for myself it looks too complicated in English. In Czech its easy and short to say, however/
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