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Originally Posted by Roddoss72
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1, Japan decides that it will attack America but delays the attack to the 25th December 1941 Christmas Day.
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With the additional assets at Pearl are the Japanese discovered? Especially as tensions will have been rising and alert status higher.
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2, On the 25th December at 5.00am (HLT) 5 Japanese Merchant Marine vessels transiting through the Panama Canal which are packed with high explosives blow themselves up in a massive suiced attack, the Panama Canal is effectively destroyed and is knocked out of action for some years.
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Would Japanese ships even be allowed in the Canal at this point in time? 5 Would raise some serious questions and likely they would at least be inspected before they were allowed into the Canal.
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3, 07.55am (HLT) Japanese forces attack Pearl Harbour three waves of air attacks, the third wave proves the most devestating as it wipes out 50% of the oil and fuel facilities.
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A) It may not be a surprise in which case Japanese naval aviation is crippled to little effect.
B) A third strike is going to incur significant additional casualties and probably can't be launched the same day.
C) With the additional defences at PH all strikes will take additional damage.
D) There is a real question as to whether a third strike would have been capable of inflicting the damage you state.
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4, 09.45am (HLT) Japanese force in the North Pacific launch and invasion of the Aleutians, and by the end of the day gain at least several islands as bases of Operations.
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The Aleutians were almost useless as a base of operations. Taking several islands requires a significant portion of the Japanese fleet. It's absence from Japanese home waters increase the risk that the pH force will be detected and as well as assuring US forces are on higher alert.
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5, 11.30am (HLT) MacArthur is given just one hours notice is faced with the full force of the Japanese Philipine Expeditionary Force, American and Philipino forces are unprepared as they are in full Christmas celebration spirit and by this time many of the American personal are to intoxicated to fight.
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Why only one hour? Not all US forces would be celebrating. Especially as alert stat us would be even higher. Are the Japanese even capable of launching three different offensives this ambitious? It's certainly going to cut very deep into their oil reserves.
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On the 26th December 1941
1, 06.00am (HLT) several Japanese subs that are patroling off the entrance of Pearl Harbour are presented with the sight of the two U.S carriers returning to survey the devestating scene and as the two carriers just outside of Pearl Harbour they are torpedoed and taken by surprise damage parties can't save them, they sink within minutes.
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Why are they more successful now than they were historically? Indeed the day after an attack on PH they would be lucky to survive any where close to Hawaiian waters much less sink to CVs.
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2, 10.00am (HLT) Japanese Hawaian Expeditionary Forces begin to attack leading off with aerial and naval bombardment of Hawaii, followed with landing parties and by the end of the day Pearl Harbour is forced into surrender.
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Now you have stepped far into fantasy land. Japan wasn't capable of launching a successful invasion of Hawaii.
No point in going any further.