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Old November 30th, 2007, 07:33 PM
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Default Re: Tarawa What-if

On the basis of the above, one could argue that both Dunkirk and Tobruk (second time around) were Allied defeats. I assume you are going to argue that at Dunkirk the British surrender and do not get withdrawn. I suggest searching this board (or others) for threads on Seelöwe and the Battle of Britain to see just how little effect this would have on subsequent events. Tobruk, likewise, still ends up at Alamein and a German defeat.

I would recommend the following as potential alternatives that might have had a profound effect on the outcome of things (negatively) for the Western Allies in the Pacific and Europe:

Guadalcanal. Doable for the Japanese, far moreso than Tarawa.
New Guiena and Port Moresby. Again possible for the Japanese
Salerno: The Germans have a realistic chance of stopping that operation
The battle of the Atlantic (eg., U-boat and surface operations): Possibly a German win if shipping losses were increased up through 1941.
Biak: MacAuthur's advance on the Philippines is knocked on its heels.
Malta: A Italo-German invasion.
A Japanese strike on the Panama canal. Possible.
Germany abandons or does not support operations in North Africa. Saves nearly 600,000 men and a huge amount of motorized equipment. Alot of potential in the East from that.
The bomber campaign and Germany's response. Has potential




As to the list above: "Astrology?" What's with that? Debunking it? This certainly couldn't be a serious subject choice otherwise.
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