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Originally Posted by OldManPetain
I'm certainly not aware of widespread rapes committed by the Wehrmacht in occupied Russia. Yet it happened thousands upon thousands of times as the Russians took German territory.
I certainly don't think it was all happy days (when the Russians agreed a carve up of territory under the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact) for the baltic states and half of Poland.
I doubt those present at Katyn in 1940 would have agreed with you that the Russians were the good guys.
I'm not defending the Germans, what they did was disgusting and should never be acceptable in a theatre of war. However, the Russians were just as bad, they came through Europe not as liberators but as an alternative occupying force. And after the war, Stalin continued to persecute his own people and kill millions of them. I think 20 million is the conservative estimate.
The best outcome would probably have been for the Germans to defeat Russia, and so exhaust themselves doing so, that the Western Allies could then win the war and impose new systems in Russia and Germany.
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As I have said before, if the Red Army fought with the same chivalry and honor as the Glorious Germans had, then the German population would have suffered in the same way the Russians had. 2 million German women raped ( while awful ) is hardly a comparison to 20 million civillians massacred, countless more tortured and abused and a country left in ruins.
As for accupying these innocent countries, this buffer zone was created for Russias security and protection from the same countries which have had a history of invading it, not the other way around.