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Originally Posted by Sloniksp
Sturm is such a post really necessary?
This will be the only part which I will respond to, as everything else sounds the same.
Stalin's infamous order for "Not one step back" ONLY came at Stalingrad. The rest which retreated were and were shot were "Shtrafbat units".
The most acceptable and widely used number of Stalin's brutal regime is around 20-25 million NOT 40. Also, the Germans were responsible for 28 million Russian deaths in less then 5 years. Stalin managed this in 30.
So please lets stop comparing a foreign countries brutality against a sub-human people which they invaded to ONE brutal man resposible for punishing HIS own people!
Perhaps more reading is in order?
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Where you there at that time?
So you say it's because it only happend at Stalingrad, there shouldn't be made a point of that?
So numbers do not count, only how many in years?
Well Russia managed to rape 15 Million of women in the last monts of World War II. Want more?:
“Kill, kill, you brave Red Army soldiers, kill. There is nothing in the Germans that is innocent. Obey the instructions of comrade Stalin and stamp the fascistic beast in its cave. Break with force the racial arrogance of the German women. Take them as your legal loot. Kill, you brave Red Army soldiers, kill!” Ilya Ehrenburg 1945.
Ironically, Ehrenburg, like Stalin himself, was Jewish.
However it was not only the Germans who suffered at the hands of Stalin’s victorious army, Russians did too; in particular the large Russian émigré population in Europe was to experience the depredations of the advancing Red Army. And in this regard the Russian Army was to receive help from an unlikely quarter. In an episode of infamy that has largely been ignored by the Western powers and their lapdog media Stalin was helped in an operation that has become known as one of history’s darkest episodes of betrayal:
“Operation Keelhaul”.
Why always Hitler, Hitler, Hitler... Hitler?
40 Million:
"While it is difficult to compare evil, Stalin has to be considered much worse than Hitler. Certainly, he was responsible for the deaths of many more people than Hitler. The estimates of Russian deaths under Joseph Stalin are estimated to be 40 million (yes, forty million individuals!), including the approximately 10 million killed as a result of Stalin's collectivization of the Russian farms in the early 1930s. Even Hitler (who killed twenty million individuals!) did not come close to matching these numbers."
"Though the death rates are not known with any certainty for either dictator, no one doubts that the murders perpetrated by Stalin's policies far exceed those of Hitler's. If six to eight million people were killed by Hitler, then Stalin killed at least 20-22 million. Some historians even venture to suggest that 40 million is a truer figure. Tragically, no one will ever know."
Sloniksp what you said 20-25 million is not the MAXIMUM it's like the MININUM.