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Old January 19th, 2008, 08:42 PM
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Default Re: Were the Nazis Christians? Of course remember the Inquisition?

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Sort of like global Warming today.
Or indeed the 'war on terror' eh?

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Well you can make an argument that it was a dictatorship, but since the cornerstone or Communism and Liberalism for that matter, is the dictatorship of the proletariot, then I find it hard to give credibility to your statement that it wasn't truly communist.
Think about certain basic elements of communism, equality (people in the soviet union were by no means equal, those with power used it to gather wealth and lived a better quality of life than the workers), worker control of the means of production (the workers of the soviet union had very little of this), the ability to be accomplished in whatever sphere you choose and apply yourself to (again, this was never the case in Soviet Russia). There are so many ways in which Soviet Russia failed to achieve a truly 'communist' state, hell, as you pointed out they had a dictator, it wasn't a dictatorship of the prolitariat (an autocratic system where the working class have absolute power) but a despotism. Not a communist idea at all, the theories and principles were abused by those in power.

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Wasn't the Five year Plan the brainchild of Stalin who was the government?
And in Germany the Nazis allowed the War materials Industry to make their profits and later infiltrated that industry to try and create their own, SS run with camp labor.
Sorry HO, didn't make myself clear enough, POS stated that economically Nazism and Democracy were similar EXCEPT that under the Nazis the economy was state controlled. I simply pointed out that a) that is a pretty massive difference and b) isn't totally true because as you say the level of state control over industry in Nazi Germany was limited in many ways.

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Yet the Godless communist ideal worked pretty well when motivating men under arms.
I think though that is more to do with the historical motivations of Russian soldiers and the different kind of patriotism you encounter rather than religious issues.
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