Of course Germans of today aren't responsible for crimes in the past (well, most of them, I'm guessing that some SS survived and fled everywhere). I merely find your response off-topic.

This thread is about a Holocaust memorial being erected in favor of the Gypsies gassed, shot, and generally mistreated in some twentieth century event. Not about how you and your friends are sick about having the holocaust stuck in your faces all the time.

I'm glad you dismissed point three. It makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside about human nature.

If you want to have your personal grievances addressed, make a bloody thread. Once again, hijack=terrorism. I have no idea about how you feel, but hijacking a thread is far more arrogant than criticizing the event.

And, as for the definition:

Von, why do you think I asked for your definition of "patriotism" and "nationalism"? We may be on different tracks, here.

For instance, "nationalism". What are you and your friends proud of? A successful reunification of Germany or something?