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Old January 4th, 2009, 02:51 PM
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Default re: Valkyrie (movie)

Stefan;
Well here again we agree to disagree-most people caught up in totalitarian state dictatorships do as they are told or else. So here is this guy Stauffenberg being blown along like a leaf in the totalitarian wind-just like everyone else who does not want to disappear without a trace- and one day he takes a stand against it? Pretty "heroic" considering that they won't just kill you-but they just might kill your entire family. Speer is a little more awkward of a question as he was a pretty active player in the NAZI mechanisms-and indeed set up the slave labor system.
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PS. And the Bielskis rate as heros EVEN IF THEY CAN BE FOUND GUILTY of the Noboliki massacre. Why? Well the choice was to join the Red Partisans or not survive. The Red Partisans were quite simply the Red Army behind the lines. One followed orders in the Red Army if one knew what was good for him! And given the incredibly savage nature of the war behind the lines? Well I would not be surprised...Still I tend to think that Bielskis were not involved and were simply named because their name had become so famous.
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