I know i will have churchill apologists jumping up and down but its a fair question,for me the only good thing he did was stand up to hitler.

Lets have a look at his record,what he did seem to have is a genuine talent for attatching himself to success while distancing himself from politically damaging stuff.

1.gallipolli,,,,,easy to be brave when its not you neck on the line,foolish.

2.norway,,,,his idea,chamberlin got the blame.

3.british retreat out of greece,,,,,,he pushed for british involvement but sent a force too small to do the job and then blamed the men on the ground for the poor showing.

4.he advocated the use of poisen gas and area bombing and it was his spitefulness that lead to the blitz(which by accident more than design to british victory in the BoB).

5.He was also quick to slam lucas at anzio(a debate for a different day)but this was probably more for promoting his own public image than anything,lucas and clarke both thought churchill an amateur.

6.He did nothing good to help post war relations with russia,apologists will maintain that what he has done for democracy cant be overlooked but he didnt do anything for reasons of democracy,when he drew up the"naughty little document"he was thinking only of the british empire.
Be grateful he didnt always get what he wanted because he wanted plans drawn up to invade russia,thats one greedy eye.

No doubt i have forgotten many things and some people will get the rats but is this forum for discussion or is it just a get-along-club.

So,what was churchills worth and could it have been done without him?

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