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Originally Posted by LJad
I think your point of view is that before Stalingrad the Germans were winning.
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Nope, not my point, and I really don't understand yours. However, the Germans were much more successful before Stalingrad, as most surprise attacks initially are, and especially against the 1941 Soviet army. Now for the third time I will ask you whether you can deny the Germans won no more major battles on any front after the loss? That represents a turning point. And yes at Kursk the Soviets had clearly turned the tables on the Germans and were from then forward a much more efficient fighting force.