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Neither is there any evidence that it was any good. And if you use the term "Fire Control" in the broadest sense to include the proficiency of the crew, then there is ample evidence that it was "quite bad".
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Well I'd consider the first salvo stradle off Samar as evidence of a pretty decent fire control.
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Do you have any documentary evidence for making this claim?
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The length of her baseline and qualitiy and size of her optics. Certainly there were problems. I believe for instance that the Japanese had at least one more set of people in the chain than the US did. Not familiar enough with the German or British practice to compare them.
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"Japanese stable verticals and gyro work for fire control seem to be vastly inferior".
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My understanding is that everyone esle's stable verticals were significantly inferior to the US ones if they had them.
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The Japanese apparently never expended much effort on gunnery training for Yamato. When the Yamato was first commissioned, it became the flagship of the Combined Fleet under Admiral Yamamoto.
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Certainly they didn't expend very many rounds. However that's not quite the same as training. It's not clear to me how much of the latter they did.
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Just what was the level of Tirpitz's gunnery training late in the war? If it was comparable to the Yamato's gunnery crew in late 1944 or early 1945, it would have been pretty bad.
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I don't think I've ever heard that Tirptiz fired in practice rounds once she was sent to Norway. Doesn't mean she didn't but later on when she was damaged and just sitting in the fjord I seriosly doubt her crew did much training except perhaps for AA work.