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Re: Caribbean Naval Bases
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Where? Show this location by Google Maps, or other similar please......
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Re: Caribbean Naval Bases
Jerome,
I was very interested in your information about American bases in Trinidad. Do you have any information about the Trinidad/Trinidad and Tobago Volunteers? They were a locally raised unit with 2 battalions. The 1st battalion was sent overseas but the war ended before the 2nd could be sent. My father and uncle both served in the 2nd battalion, but I can find little or nothing about the unit on the web. I have seen pictures of the men in uniform guarding military installations in Trinidad but there is no information around.
Any help would be appreciated.
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Re: Caribbean Naval Bases
My apologies for my long absence. What started as a simple request for a list of Trinidad aircrew in ww2, somehow got terribly out of hand!!
I have placed on this website, Caribbean Roll of Honour the names of those West Indians killed in both world wars. I am still working on it, but thought it best to post my data in the public domain just in case. For information on Caribbean RAF Aircrew visit this site Caribbean Aircrew in the RAF.
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August 27th, 2009, 10:26 PM
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My apologies for my long absence. What started as a simple request for a list of Trinidad aircrew in ww2, somehow got terribly out of hand!!
I have placed on this website, Caribbean Roll of Honour the names of those West Indians killed in both world wars. I am still working on it, but thought it best to post my data in the public domain just in case. For information on Caribbean RAF Aircrew visit this site Caribbean Aircrew in the RAF.
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Dear Jerome:
Seems a big task  .
I wish to you the best luck for your websites  !
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September 12th, 2009, 04:09 PM
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This photo of a PBM Mariner, was I am told, taken over Trinidad. I have my doubts. The nose number 212 P2 seem to indicate 212 Sqn (VP212) but I can find no such USN Squadron. Can anyone help?
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This photo of a PBM Mariner, was I am told, taken over Trinidad. I have my doubts. The nose number 212 P2 seem to indicate 212 Sqn (VP212) but I can find no such USN Squadron. Can anyone help?
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Take a look, Jerome:
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September 12th, 2009, 07:01 PM
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Thanks a lot Jan.
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You are welcome, Jerome!
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VP204 NAS Chaguaramas, Trinidad
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Re: Caribbean Naval Bases
Anybody have info on the aircraft of the Fleet Air Arm 752 Squadron? I am particularly interested in the Stinson AT19. I heard a BBC4 Broadcast that indicated that many airplanes were dumped into the ocean at the end of the war, particularly the Barracuda - just curious if the Reliant was included in that group.
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Anybody have info on the aircraft of the Fleet Air Arm 752 Squadron? I am particularly interested in the Stinson AT19. I heard a BBC4 Broadcast that indicated that many airplanes were dumped into the ocean at the end of the war, particularly the Barracuda - just curious if the Reliant was included in that group.
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I am not sure about the Reliant - I have been awol from the Museum for the last fortnight - but will check next week as to what types of a/c were dumped and location. I have uploaded some 752 Sqn photos on my site (see address in post 29 above), as well as 750 Sqn
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Anybody have info on the aircraft of the Fleet Air Arm 752 Squadron? I am particularly interested in the Stinson AT19. I heard a BBC4 Broadcast that indicated that many airplanes were dumped into the ocean at the end of the war, particularly the Barracuda - just curious if the Reliant was included in that group.
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Following, please explain your investigations in this thread.......
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October 8th, 2009, 08:21 PM
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Hi Jan,
Thanks - this is a great site! I have looked thru the Fleet Air Arm Archive - they have alot of great stuff there. I have been researching the histories of all 500 Stinson AT-19's built. Both during the war and in their civilian life afterwards. I own 5 of the airplanes of which one is flying and one I am restoring. The flying airplane flew with 752 Squadron at Piarco. When I went thru the planes paperwork it still had the original Air Corp log of its flight from Detroit to Trinidad and also many of the Royal Navy logbooks from it's time in Trinidad. I am doing the restoration as accurate as I can be to the original FAA configuration. I have found all of the original UK equipment that was installed; radios, camera & drive motor, headsets/microphones, even the correct Air Ministry electrical connectors and fittings.
Thanks again for all your help - I am a "self-proclaimed" computer idiot so let me know when I do something wrong
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Hi Jan,
Thanks - this is a great site! I have looked thru the Fleet Air Arm Archive - they have alot of great stuff there. I have been researching the histories of all 500 Stinson AT-19's built. Both during the war and in their civilian life afterwards. I own 5 of the airplanes of which one is flying and one I am restoring. The flying airplane flew with 752 Squadron at Piarco. When I went thru the planes paperwork it still had the original Air Corp log of its flight from Detroit to Trinidad and also many of the Royal Navy logbooks from it's time in Trinidad. I am doing the restoration as accurate as I can be to the original FAA configuration. I have found all of the original UK equipment that was installed; radios, camera & drive motor, headsets/microphones, even the correct Air Ministry electrical connectors and fittings.
Thanks again for all your help - I am a "self-proclaimed" computer idiot so let me know when I do something wrong
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You are welcome, Stinson....  ! I'm glad to help at shipmates as you.
This page are in my favorites, many years ago, for the reason that with his information, helps me in my investigations.
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I am not sure about the Reliant - I have been awol from the Museum for the last fortnight - but will check next week as to what types of a/c were dumped and location. I have uploaded some 752 Sqn photos on my site (see address in post 29 above), as well as 750 Sqn
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Thank you Jerome, great pictures. In doing the Stinson research I found a reference to "Light Belle Vue, Pointadierre, Trinidad". Are you familiar with this place? Where is it in reference to Piarco Airfield, and do you have any record of a Reliant crash there on 29 Jan 45?
Were you with the Museum when Sian Price did his BBC Documentary about Piarco? I was fianally able to hear it and it was fascinating.
Do you have any more 752 Squadron Pictures?
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October 9th, 2009, 07:31 PM
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Ask for experts: Who is this dome in the top of this Mariner?
Thanks in advance!
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October 10th, 2009, 01:30 PM
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Thank you Jerome, great pictures. In doing the Stinson research I found a reference to "Light Belle Vue, Pointadierre, Trinidad". Are you familiar with this place? Where is it in reference to Piarco Airfield, and do you have any record of a Reliant crash there on 29 Jan 45?
Were you with the Museum when Sian Price did his BBC Documentary about Piarco? I was fianally able to hear it and it was fascinating.
Do you have any more 752 Squadron Pictures?
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Pointe-a-Pierre is on the SW coast of Trinidad (where the oil refinery is located) Never heard of Light belle vue, but there is a Bonne Aventure in Pointe-a-Pierre. Don't have Google Earth on my Mac but lat/long is 10.20N/61.25W and is about 17 miles SSW of Piarco.
Will check on Reliant crash of 45.
I am one of the founding members of the museum (91 to present) and there have been so many interviews over the years, I don't recall the BBC interview. We most likely did not get a copy of the documentary.
The other pics (Barracuda/Fulmar) could well be from 752, but have not attributed it to them without confirmation. I have a listing of names for the 752 group pics and when deciphered will post them.
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Pointe-a-Pierre is on the SW coast of Trinidad (where the oil refinery is located) Never heard of Light belle vue, but there is a Bonne Aventure in Pointe-a-Pierre. Don't have Google Earth on my Mac but lat/long is 10.20N/61.25W and is about 17 miles SSW of Piarco.
Will check on Reliant crash of 45.
I am one of the founding members of the museum (91 to present) and there have been so many interviews over the years, I don't recall the BBC interview. We most likely did not get a copy of the documentary.
The other pics (Barracuda/Fulmar) could well be from 752, but have not attributed it to them without confirmation. I have a listing of names for the 752 group pics and when deciphered will post them.
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Hi Jerome,
I am sure you probably have these pictures, I found them in a 1944 Flight Case group of documents. It has a series of charts for a navigation from Florida to Natal. It has the 1944 Aeronatical Chart of Trinidad with Waller and Piarco Fields, plus photos of the main, alternate, and emergency landing fields.
Hope you find them interesting  .
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Hi Jerome,
I am sure you probably have these pictures, I found them in a 1944 Flight Case group of documents. It has a series of charts for a navigation from Florida to Natal. It has the 1944 Aeronatical Chart of Trinidad with Waller and Piarco Fields, plus photos of the main, alternate, and emergency landing fields.
Hope you find them interesting  .
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I certainly do - and your copies are in better condition than what I have. Can I beg you for a high Res scan of the photos & chart? Will PM you my email.
There were about 30+ Reliants operating in Trinidad - used for Nav/Obs training at Piarco. The Jan 45 crash occured in the area of Brasso Seco - will look for a lat/long for you. The crew of 3 died - will do a search for their names on CWGC.They are believed buried in the Port of Spain Military Cemetery.
The RN did dump a load of stuff, well outside the Bocas. But we have no inventory as to what was dumped. Gaylord recalls seeing a photo of a swordfish being tipped overboard, but the Barracudas, Fulmars and Reliants may well have been among them.
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Jerome thank you for keeping this quite interesting thread of little known operations alive, and of course to the other posters with their added tidbits of information.
keep it up. I salute thee
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There is a Belle Vue, South of San Fernando,and which is South of Pointe-a-Pierre, but definitely NO Light Belle Vue.
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Lat/Long for Belle Vue, Ste Madeleine, San Fernando = 10.16.18N/61.25.50W
Brasso seco Village - 10.44.33N/ 61.15.28W.
A Museum search team visited Brasso seco in the early 90's and located the remains of a small aircraft (3 seats and engine). We were never able to confirm that it was a Reliant and I was not on that trip, hence my lack of memory.
Gaylord has just handed me the BBC Radio 4 Documentary on HMS Goshawk - will listen to it this pm and it is dated Jan 2005
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The RN Ship that dumped the old aircraft was HMS Campania, an escort carrier after the war in 1945. Hope this helps.
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