The King George V was the british flag ship of WW2 wasn't it? Also did it take much part in the sinking of the Bismarck? Also you know the radar mechanics of WW2 is there a list of who was on the ship and who fixed the radar on just that ship?

There was no single flagship of the Royal Navy, never was, never is going to be. A Flagship is a vessel that leads another group, this can even apply to destroyers.

Yes, it did help sink the Bismark. She and HMS Rodney pounded her into a burning wreck.

I'm no specialist to naval history, so I can't help on the other two.

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sorry but thats rubbish

You asked some questions, he answered the ones he knew.
The fact you don't like the answers is not his fault, so cut out the rudeness.

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Well I know that there is only 1 Flag ship and thats a fact.

Better brush up on your naval history. Every fleet commander has a flagship and each fleet commander may choose to change that flagship as he sees fit. The British had several "Fleets" in operation during WW II and thus employed several "Fleet" flagships. This practice is followed by every navy I have ever heard of.

Where did you get the erroneous idea that there is only one flagship in any navy?

DA, I may be completely wrong, but hasn't the HMS Victory been the senior flagship of the Royal Navy for a number of years?

Even if true, this role would be ceremonial only. Doesn't the USS Constitution share the same status regarding the US Navy?

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I do not know about HMS Victory. She may be the "senior" flagship of the Royal Navy (which would be a symbolic title), but is certainly not the only flagship. She is the oldest commissioned warship in the world.

The USS Constitution is the oldest commissioned warship afloat (HMS Victory is permanently dry docked), but is not a flagship in any sense of the word. She is more akin to a museum ship although she is fully in commission, is manned by a crew of approximately 60 active duty US Navy personnel, and performs mostly ceremonial duties.

The term "flagship" denotes a ship in which a senior commander flies his flag while in active command of a fleet or squadron. Normally, a flagship is equipped with extra accommodations for a senior commander's staff, and additional communications gear to facilitate receiving reports, and intelligence, and issuing commands to the other ships in the fleet. Thus the term "flagship" is more than just an honorific or symbolic appellation, and a flagship has a very practical application during war time operations.

Ah, yes, my query was only in a ceremonial context. By the way, IIRC, every naval vessel that enters the Thames has to salute the Victory.

Does anyone know how the Vic is faring in the wake of the recent fire? Sorry for being off-topic.

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How does they do that when Victory is in Pompey?
Do you mean The Solent, Za?

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Fire?
I believe sir, you are thinking of the Cutty Sark?
A very civilian boat.

Though Victory was damaged in an air-raid during the war.
Wonder how much of her is still actually the ship that fought at Trafalgar?.. much of her superstructure was carried away in the fighting (BIG lumps of wood) and among all the repairs and other restoration I sometimes feel I'm looking at something of a 'Grandad's axe'.
Still a beautiful icon though, like Nelson's blood-stained uniform & the relic sail, it makes me come over a bit 'peculiar' when I see it.

Cheers,
Adam.

Interesting conversation going on here. If you know the answer why ask the question???
Your facts are just a bit incorrect, so if you would mind citing a source for your Information???
HMS King George V was made Flagship of the Home Fleet Following the sinking of the HMS Hood. Now get ready to have your mind blown. While HMS Hood was still Flagship of the Home Fleet, the Battle of Cape Matapan occurred in the Med. During this battle there were two separate flagships. Admiral Sir Andrew Cunningham, who flew his flag from HMS Warspite, and in overall command of all forces, and Admiral Henry Pridham-Wippell, who hung his flag from HMS Orion, in charge of the cruiser squadron. In addition Captain Philip Mack led the 14 Flotilla with the HMS Jarvis as his Flotilla leader, though he was not a flag officer.

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It is the function of the Navy to carry the war to the enemy so that it will not be fought on U.S. soil. Admiral Chester W. Nimitz

Solent, Schmolent, it's all Yiddish to me

Alright, so it's Portsmouth! Damn, having to be corrected by these snotty smartalecs! Pff!

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The object of this forum is to promote discusion not arguments.

Which i endorse with the above statement.

Ah a fact you say well then present your arguments we all here are more than willing to listen to inteligently presented points of veiw.Have somthing to say that doesn't involve stamping your foot on the floor.

Such as this!

Or as you can see this.


Yesterday 10:45 PM

Re: King George V
Or ultimately this which is exactly the type of information you initially requested.Here is a vast tapestry of Very Very Knowledgeable people Some of whom have first hand experience of the very subject of this forum. So do try and remember it costs nothing to be polite and some people have earned it in spades.

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HMS King George V, British battleship, WW2

Brief history of the boat, ship, watery thingy.

The web site itself. Navynet is reccomended by Imperial war museum as a tip top, great, must look, get your info here, site as Im sure many members on here already know. Including US information.

Someone asked for a source, please provide one.

Pay heed to these comments.

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Thank you all very much for your continued efforts in helping raising standards in this forum.

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flag ship definition | Dictionary.com

Have YOU got any sources to back up your idea?

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Oh? And I who thought Cutty Sark was a Canadian whisky

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Maybe are Internet King JC could throw some light on this one, after all JC knows his way around google.

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I am English and proud of it...Europe dose not need a another State, nuts to the EU.

JC IS google!

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I don’t think we are going to get a response. Just so we have an idea of what kind of confusion we can have on flagships, I have gone through the OoB for the Battle of the Philippine Sea. I know the thread is of a British battleship, but I’m much more knowledgeable on the USN than the RN so please forgive me. AFAIK both Navies use the same format. So, this battle placed the US Fifth Fleet up against the Japanese.

In Charge of the US Fifth Fleet was Admiral Raymond Spruance who hung his Flag on the USS Indianapolis (CA35).
Under Spruance was Vice Admiral Marc Mitscher commanding TF 58 and flying his flag on the USS Lexington (CV16), Note a subordinate is in a larger ship so any ship can be claimed as the flagship in the Fleet, Task Force, etc.
Under Mitscher was:
Rear Admiral Joseph J. Clark commanding TF 58.1 with the USS Yorktown (CV10) flying his flag
Rear Admiral Alfred E. Montgomery commanding TF 58.2 with the USS Bunker Hill (CV17) flying his flag
Rear Admiral John W. Reeves commanding TF 58.3 with the USS Enterprise (CV6) flying his flag.
Rear Admiral William K. Harrill commanding TF 58.4 with the USS Essex (CV9) flying his flag
Vice Admiral Willis A. Lee commanding TF 58.7 with the USS Washington (BB56) flying his flag.

Also under Lee were three other flag officers. Rear Admiral E. W. Hanson, Rear Admiral Glenn B. Davis, and Rear Admiral O. M. Hustvedt. So as you can see in just this one fleet there was ten flagships. There was also destroyer squadrons in each task force but none of them were commanded by a flag officer.
Hope this helps with some of the confusions

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It is the function of the Navy to carry the war to the enemy so that it will not be fought on U.S. soil. Admiral Chester W. Nimitz

I know this is off subject a little and i will put this in the "Today in WWII" thread but i thought the naval buffs on this thread might like this little peice of Aussie naval history. As is so often the case i give credit to the Australian War memorial for this info.

Ordinary Seaman Edward (Teddy) Sheean

Date of birth: 28 December 1923
Place of birth: Barrington, TAS
Date of death: 01 December 1942
Place of death: Arafura Sea


Edward "Teddy" Sheean was an ordinary seaman serving on HMAS Armidale whose death during a Japanese aerial attack on his ship has become a well-known episode in Australian Second World War lore.

Sheean was born at Lower Barrington, Tasmania, on 28 December 1923. He received his education in a Catholic school at Latrobe in Tasmania and, having completed his schooling, worked on farms in the area where he grew up. He enlisted in the Royal Australian Naval Reserve in April 1941 and began his initial training in Tasmania. In February 1942 he was sent to the Flinders Naval Depot at Westernport in Victoria to continue his training, and the following May he was posted to Sydney.

At the end of that month, the vessel on which he was billeted, the former ferry Kuttabul, was sunk during the Japanese midget submarine attack on Sydney Harbour. Fortunately for Sheean he was in Tasmania on home leave that night. He returned to Sydney 11 days later to begin his service as an Oerlikon anti-aircraft gunner on the newly commissioned corvette, HMAS Armidale. Armidale spent her early months on relatively uneventful convoy escort duties along Australia's east and northern coasts.

In October 1942 Armidale's captain, Lieutenant Commander David Richards, was ordered to Darwin and, on 29 November, the corvette began her last operation. Along with two other vessels, she was to undertake a resupply and evacuation mission to Japanese-occupied Timor.

Having been seen by Japanese reconnaissance pilots shortly after leaving the port, Armidale was destined for a dangerous journey. She and the other corvette on the operation, HMAS Castlemaine, missed the rendezvous with the third ship, in Timor's Betano Bay, but met her later some 100 kilometres off-shore. The plan having gone awry, Armidale was ordered to return to Betano the following night. Facing a long day in enemy waters and the certainty of attack, the crew waited.

When in the mid-afternoon she was hit by two aircraft-launched torpedoes, Armidale began to sink fast. Sheean was wounded and, rather than abandon ship, he strapped himself to his Oerlikon and began to engage the attacking aircraft even as the ship sunk beneath him. He shot down two planes, and crewmates recall seeing tracer rising from beneath the surface as Sheean was dragged under the water, firing until the end. He died on 1 December 1942 aged just 18. Only 49 of the 149 men on board survived the attack and subsequent ordeal on rafts and in life boats.

Many consider that Sheean's actions deserved the Victoria Cross, an award for which he was not recommended at the time although he was Mentioned in Dispatches. He has subsequently been honoured in a well-known painting at the Australian War Memorial and by having a Collins Class submarine named after him in 1999 - the only vessel in the Royal Australian Navy to be named after an ordinary seaman.

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You can check the various listings on the OoB page at Navweaps. Many of them note the various flagships present in a battle.
The Order Of Battle Page