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December 10th, 2002, 03:20 PM
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what a waste of manpower and equipment. The Luftwaffe staged this early morning attack to deal a death blow to the Allied airfields hoping to catch the Allies in a drunken stupour......nope ! The only Luftwaffe a/c that seemed to manage during this operation was the Ju 88G-1 and Ju 88G-6 night fighters that were allocated to each one of the day fighter wings for orientation purposes. As the Ju 88's banked away to return to base so they wouldn't become chicken fodder to Allied fighters, the German fighters themselves got lost. Almost a third of the wings involved attacked the wrong air bases or did not find suitable side fields to attack so therefore roads/junctions, stray MT vehicles, buildings and such were strafed. Only JG 3 was able to attack Eindhoven with success and remove themselves from the area relatively unscathed. Some of the top wing and staffel commanders of the Luftwaffe were lost during this bold assault(s).
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Thank you sir, and always looking forward to your next posting(s) [img]smile.gif[/img]
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December 11th, 2002, 11:03 AM
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Hi Friends. This being the time when major actions were suspended until the ground became ‘useable,’ while we waited for the thaw, all sorts of training took place. For a start, there were so many fresh and green young faces that had to be made aware of the realities of war. For, many reinforcements did not have the slightest idea of what it was all about, without the help of the experienced ‘Veteran’ nineteen year olds they would have been cannon fodder.
Bridge Training and Assault River Crossing Techniques.
Jan. 9th.16th.
For the next ten days a training camp was set up at Gassel, near Grave and we
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Bailey Pontoon Bridging.
Folding Boat Equipment.
Close Support Rafts Class 50 & 60 Rafts.
Storm Boats.
MAT Bridging.
On January the 17th. a demonstration of all of these sets of equipment was given before the Divisional Commander, the Brigade Commander and Officers of 8 Brigade. In the afternoon a Regatta was held and won by 3 Platoon. Ice and snow conditions were severe throughout this period. This was a welcome refresher for everyone because we had been concentrating mainly on short span crossings up to now, but the Rhine was ahead and we had to bring all platoons, Including reinforcements, up to our usual standard.
We continued our engineering commitments In the northern half of the Divisional area along the Maas front from January 19th. to February 8th. Back at Schoor, once again, the reinforced concrete box culvert was completed and filling brought up to the underside of the twin Baileys by February 14th. The biggest hold up to the job’s progress was the severe frost. The routine jobs of picketing the roads, drainage, haunching and potholing was left to the civilian gangs under our direction.
The corduroy surfaced “Fir Track”, now 6200 yards in length, when it became covered in snow it was “rolled”, graded and super elevated by the autopatrol graders and the surface treated with gravel when it became available. We were quite proud of our road, complete with a “Piccadilly Roundabout” and a surface capable of carrying traffic at speeds up to 40 miles an hour with light vehicles. A parallel tank track code named “Hare” was constructed from the Overloon, Oploo Road to the north of Vierlingsbeek, marked by pickets and an American bridge In Treadway equipment was strengthened to Class 40. During this work it was necessary to gap and mark our own minefield on the track’s alignment.
The Company formed a Demonstration Team to tour units of 8th. Brigade to show them methods of shoring up buildings for their defence. Three Mines Courses, each of two days duration, were arranged for the Pioneer Platoons of the infantry Battalions to train them in the new mine clearance methods and drills developed in the past months. Near Smakt a tubular scaffold observation tower 35ft.high.was made for the Royal Artillery and a road block, consisting of large concrete blocks, found locally, was prepared for the 3rd. Recce Regiment, north of Sambeek. A bridge demolition scheme for a bridge to the west of Sambeek was prepared and the stores stacked nearby.
Back to the railways, the line from Venrai station to Tienray was converted to a double width roadway using two of our angledozers and two blade graders and this completed another ¾ miles-by February 1st. The final consolidation of the track was completed on February 5th.
Lieutenant Charles Boyse, R O.1. and Major David Willison, the CO, recce’d the banks of the River Maas, during February lst. to the 3rd., in the area Grubbenvorst -Venlo to prepare the way for a planned 3 Div. crossing of the Maas on February 15th. During the night of February 4/5 Charles Boyse and two sappers went to the Maas again, launched a motor tug at Wanssum Creek and took a patrol of infantrymen across the river, opposite Marshees, bringing them back again after they completed their mission.
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December 11th, 2002, 11:15 AM
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Morning Carl and Erich. Thanks for that.
Just as I said, this was a time of waiting. lots of aggresive patrols, But soon the whole thing was due to erupt into some very violent action. Those fresh young faces that were everywhere soon to find out what war is really like. While I was still in hospital back in England.
Its always nice to hear from you.
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December 11th, 2002, 08:51 PM
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Quite welcome Sir, its always a great pleasure and experiance reading your great stories.
Also ive just sent you a private message.
Take care--Carl.
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December 12th, 2002, 11:34 AM
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Hello again forum friends.
What follows illustrates just how certain moves in war can be very unpopular. In fact, to be quite honest, the company bitterly resented the orders we had on our next move. To say these orders were unpopular is an understatement. Many of the men were seething with anger being taken away from their active role. Especially as we seemed to be being used to get someone else out of trouble.
West of Tilburg February 8th. 1945.
As had been forecast, the thaw was beginning to cause the collapse of the road into Divisional HQ at Heide. 400 foot of MAT bridging had to be laid and a great deal of rubble put down. On February 8th. nearly all of the Div HQ vehicles had to be extricated by our armoured D4 Dozer and numerous winch vehicles. On the same day orders were received for the Company to send an Officer representative to the Town Major at Eindhoven, and another to a map reference west of Tilburg. We had also received orders to move to Coorbeekloo near Louvain on February 10th, but now we were warned to move off at 7.30 am, 9th. February, to occupy billets on the outskirts of Eindhoven, and we were there by the evening.
It was then discovered that 246 Field Coy. RE was to come under command of the CRE 2nd. Canadian Army Troops RE, in turn under l3th. Group RE. Captain Edwards made contact with the Canadians, who seemed completely disinterested, and received rather hazy orders to restore the road from Best to St. Oedenrude, which had partially collapsed as a result of the thaw, and had been closed to traffic. Quite evidently some one was cashing in on our experience, and we were not very amused.
Final orders were given by the 2nd Canadian Army Troops RE during the morning of February 10th. and we started work at 1330 hrs. This task consisted of restoring the drainage throughput the whole length. Finally on February the 23rd, we had two days respite for admin. and maintenance during which we had orders that the Division was moving up from Louvain to concentrate in the area of Tilburg.
Consequently we were not surprised to learn that we were to move to the front line area of Goch on the 25th. of February, under command of our habitual 8 Brigade. The OC 246 co RE and the RO1 recce officer went off to recce the area around Goch in advance of the Company move.
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December 13th, 2002, 12:47 PM
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Hello Forum Friends.
A you will see the company is back in action with a vengeance. For now we are to enter the heartlands of Germany.
It poured with rain on February 25th. as we drove in convoy to a destination at Pfaltzdorf near Goch, it was a dreadful journey, led by Captain Edwards with a permanent feeling of being lost. As we went through Cleeves it was still burning and the whole time we seemed to be in the middle of a battle. When at 2330 hours the Company convoy arrived to relieve a Company of the 25th. Scottish Division, we found that they were not moving out that night, and we were obliged to bivouac in the middle of 30 Corps Gun Area. It rained without a break and we just got wet.
The following day we were ordered to develope the main track, through the woods to the southeast of Goch, which was to form the 8th. Brigade axis for “Operation Heather” due to start next day.
February 26th. saw the end of the work on the Brigade axis... Two àrmoured bulldozers and tipper lorries were busy all day during intermittent shelling:- afterwards we all moved into a bivouac area in the woods 8outh of the Goch-Calcar road.
Operation Heather Goch-Bonninghart The Siegfreid Line February27th to March 5th. 1945.
We had sung many times “We’ll hang out our washing on the Siegfried Line” and now we had reached the point in the Rhineland where we had to break through the Siegfried Line to make progress. The defences were manned by Paratroopers of the German 8th. Parachute Regiment.
The 3rd. Division attacked, on February 27th. with 8 Brigade (as usual!) and 9 Brigade leading and each of the Battalions were provided with one sapper section as mine clearance parties. On the left, behind the 1st Battallion the Suffolks, a track had to be cleared through the thick woodland with an armoured D.7 dozer to enable the tanks of the 6th. Guards Brigade to follow in support of the advance. Two fascines carried by an Armoured Vehicle RE, which we called AVRE, were used to plug a big hole left when a Churchill tank bogged down where the track crossed a bog.
The actions brought heavy return mortar fire from the German Paras. On the right of the 8 Brigade axis the track forward was continually improved behind the East Yorks with a D.7 and the tippers until at around 1700 hours the task was taken over by Corps Troops and an RE Company of the 53rd. (Welsh) Division.
By nightfall the Company was back In the bivouac area, not a very pleasant spot, none of us liked being in the forest when we were subjected to mortar fire or 88 mm shells, both of which had a nasty habit of detonating against the higher branches over our heads. Lieut Charles Fotheringham carried out a recce of the bridge over the Muhlen Fleuth, which was the important objective of the East Yorks, and finding it wired for demolition by the enemy, out on the bridge, and despite the attentions of the enemy, disconnected the explosive charges whilst he was under considerable small arms and mortar fire. Casualties that day, 3 Sàppers wounded. Lieut.Fotheringham awarded the Military Cross later.
Now things are going to get a bit nasty! For the Germans were now defending their homeland. Very different from fighting in occupied countries.
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December 14th, 2002, 10:47 AM
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Hello Friends.
I can never understand why the film makers never tried to film the numerous and quite fascinating stories that can be found in the British military history. Take for instance, my last bit about the officer that disconnected the explosive wiring on the bridge, in the face of fierce enmy opposition. That was not the only time that it had happened, as you will learn later. But all that his heroics got, was a few brief words in the company history. A matter of statement of fact. Nothing else. No one told the true story of the fighting or the deeds of brave men. Just a statement that the "Lt won the MC for his work on the bridge."
The first few moments of the film "Seeking private Ryan" were realistic to such a degree that many Veterans found it difficult to watch. then again with the "Band of Brothers" there was a certain amount of realism. but for heavens sake!. Why no British films? for there is so much that would make wonderful films.
I once e mailed the BBC asking them why? and got a very disinterested reply.
Tell me? what are the forums views on this subject? for many legends of D Day and the subsequent battles, have never been told from the British side, resulting in some very odd ideas of just what did happen, in truth. Not by the legends that have grown in time by constant telling, and are now looked upon as historic fact
I would be very interested to know your opinions
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December 14th, 2002, 09:06 PM
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I fully agree with you Sapper, there is just NOT enough movies made dealing with British experiances and or personalities.
Although there is one that comes to mind that I thoroughly enjoyed and it had to do with a British Sergeant-Major in the Royal Artillery.
This movie had Dirk Bogarde as Sergeant Major Coward and he was a POW that tried to escape from a camp a few times--finally succeeding to do so with a Corporal. I dont know how accurate this movie was but it did have the Sergeant Major as its technical advisor. The excellent movie was: "The Password is Courage." I liked it from the first time I saw it when I was just kneehigh to a grasshopper.
Another movie that comes to mind that has to do with the British in ww2 that I liked very much is: "Too Late The Hero" with Cliff Robertson, Michael Caine (as the sole survivor of the British patrol) and one of my all-time favorite actors: Harry Andrews--as the British Camp Commander.
A third but older goodie that comes to mind is: "Dunkirk" with Sir John Mills as the Ex-Titanic 2nd Watch Officer--Lightoller. Lightoller during the Dunkirk Evacuations, used his personal yacht to help rescue British and French Soldiers from Dunkirk. Its been a long time since I last watched this movie--but if I remember correctly--I think it does center around on Lightoller and his actions.
I would not only like to see more ww2 movies with British personalities but also Korean War movies with British forces and personalities in them.
PS, Im cheating here a bit but, I liked Zulu very much--even tho its not the war your talking about, but still a great one. And finally the new version of the classic British movie: "The Four Feathers" It was VERY well done and I though better than the original--and I liked the original very much as Sir John Mills was in it as well.
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December 16th, 2002, 01:52 PM
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Hi Friends.
From now on, the company will be in constant non-stop action. Battles that will terminate in the final victory in Bremen. This period is probably the most action packed time of the companies war in North West Europe.
A time of unprecedented action. The Rhine crossing, the capture of vital bridges, The bridge at kattenturm. The final loss of our beloved “Coles Crane” that had seen action right up in the front line. Stopped with a solid tank shot!
Where before, the assaults and battles were counted, one after the other, now it became a matter of a fast action packed fighting, where each day, one never knew where we would finish, or what spectacular fighting would take place. The action was so fast that each day had to be documented, where previously, we had taken in one action at a time.
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December 16th, 2002, 04:10 PM
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Brian :
Is your unit still up against the 8th Fallshirm troops at this time ?
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December 16th, 2002, 04:34 PM
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Hi Erich, Yes while the company stayed in that area.It was not the first time, if you remember, we tangled with the 'Paras' each time they had
come off the worse in the conflict.
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December 16th, 2002, 04:43 PM
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If I remember right in reading some old texts, both the British and the German para's came off worse for wear during 1945 through northern Germany, attack, retreat, attack, retreat, it was endless as you know ! Will have to dig up some more information for further questions....  keep the narrative going sir !
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December 16th, 2002, 09:18 PM
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Hi Erich.
from this time on, there would be only advances from the British army, admitted, there would be times when the German resistance would be so severe that our advance would be held for a short time, but it would soon be back on the rails. nevertheless, there were times when the enemy fought with the ferocity born out of desperation and despair.
I often wonder why they fought so hard against the Western alliance, when the horror that awaited them with the advancing Russians? For all the terrible crimes the Germans had commited in the Soviet Union was to come home to them in the form of retribution in no uncertain terms.
I am at present reading a rather large book entitled "Berlin" the fall of the City and the terrible revenge that took place in the city. NOT NICE! If the British were so bad, why did all the refugees try their hardest to get into the western allies sphere?
But there would not be any reverses in the British armies drive towards the city of Bremen.
One thing they continued to do, and that is the constant cratering of the roads and putting up numerous road blocks, some of the road blocks were very effective, but we removed them with explosives, or with a "Crocodile" in no time at
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December 16th, 2002, 10:37 PM
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8th Fallshirmjäger Division for one seems quite understrength.
regiments 22, 24 and 32. A signals battalion and a pioneer battalion with some other thrown in units. Ad-hoc.
formed in January of 45 at Köln-Wahn and fought in Holland and in April of 45 was at Ems. Weser and into the Ruhr-Pocket.
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Hi Brian,
Been off-line for a while, so am catching up on all your recent postings - as always, of much interest.
Let me take this opportunity to wish you a Merry Christmas.
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December 23rd, 2002, 09:22 PM
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Hi Sommecourt.
Thanks for your good wishes. may I sincerely wish you and all of yours a great Christmas and a Wonderful new year that applies to all those who have followed the progress of an ordinary English mans war on this site.
Otto did write to me, and ask about some of the members using my memoirs to write a book. That is the last thing I want.
The whole object of the pages that I have subscribed, is to make freely available to all, what it was like for an ordinary service man in one of the most traumatic periods in World History. It was never meant to be used or copied, certainly not for profit. I would have liked to have continued with subscribing to the site, But I am very wary now that someone will take advantage of these pages and use them for their own ends.
There is much more to come, but I have held back in case what I have written here is "Lifted" If I know that my private memoirs would be respected, then I would willingly continue with the story.
In any case Thank you everyone, for taking the interest in a very ordinary old Veteran. I wish you all well. If I am assured that my memoirs will not be copied. then I shall continue.
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Ill be away til friday but--I wanted to wish you a Merry Christmas. Take care and Cheers--Carl.
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Best Wishes to Mr Brian Guy, and everyone else!!! 
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Hi Forum.
I hope you all had a wonderful Christmas. and I wish you all a healthy and prosperous New Year.
Now that Winter was coming to an end. the assault on the German homeland moved so fast that each day brought about a completely different situation, things were moving to a tremendous climax, By now, the green and innocent young men that landed on the Beaches back in Normandy,now had become hardened and experienced fighters. This will be interspersed with what was happening back in England, as those returning from active service, struggled to | |