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Battle for Europe Concerning WW2 in Europe, spanning the invasion of France, the Battle of Britain, D-Day to VE Day.

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Old November 25th, 2007, 02:57 AM
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Alex I firmly believe after checking through my data base that Gerhard was flying an Fw 190A-6 maybe or maybe not with the radar FuG 217 Neptun with the unit I./NJGr 10 stab or 1./NJGr 10 which flew single seaters. For the 22nd and 23rd of May 1944 the Stab Kommandeur Hauptmann Karl Friedrich Müller both nights claimed a Lancaster in his Fw 190A-6, green 3.

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Alex I firmly believe after checking through my data base that Gerhard was flying an Fw 190A-6 maybe or maybe not with the radar FuG 217 Neptun with the unit I./NJGr 10 stab or 1./NJGr 10 which flew single seaters. For the 22nd and 23rd of May 1944 the Stab Kommandeur Hauptmann Karl Friedrich Müller both nights claimed a Lancaster in his Fw 190A-6, green 3.

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You must have access to a splendid source and the know-how to utilize it. Thanks for the prompt and informative reply. Alex
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Old November 26th, 2007, 09:13 PM
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may years of contacts Alex and having a deceased cousin a former member of NJG 3 and 5 probably helps with the living Kameraden.

NJGr 10 is going to be covered in our future book and it is just a small note on Gerhard in my files. I am going to try and search more on the chap for you and your son and also too for my own interests.

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Old November 27th, 2007, 04:32 AM
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may years of contacts Alex and having a deceased cousin a former member of NJG 3 and 5 probably helps with the living Kameraden.

NJGr 10 is going to be covered in our future book and it is just a small note on Gerhard in my files. I am going to try and search more on the chap for you and your son and also too for my own interests.

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Another bit on FW 190 at Dortmund midnight or after May22/44. The rear gunner saw one on fire hurtling down past us and got off a short burst but made no claim for hits. Any record of a damaged or crash for that time? Again very little info. Trying to get Wayne to add his pic to the gallery. Your book sounds interesting Erich. Alex
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I have posted a few more images, 1941 to 1943. Includes flying suit, boots and some family images taken at King City, Ontario.
Not sure if the flying suit was intended for flying in Tiger Moths or Ansons.

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Old November 27th, 2007, 02:53 PM
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Gentlemen fro the 22nd evening of may 44, I have 6 losses and this is from the ve of the 21st to the eve of the 24th. All of them are Bf 110G-4's of NJG1, 3, 5, and 6.

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Old November 27th, 2007, 04:17 PM
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NJGr 10 was formed from elements of JG 300 one reason why there is a wild boars head used at times as emblem. the single engined staffel was the 1st while 2nd and 3rd staffels used twin engines. 1st staffel was the most active on operations. though most of the gruppe was stationed east of Berlin to protect the major citie4s east side at Werneuchen there was a forward airfield for the 1st staffels single engines at Bonn-Hangelar. NJGr 10 was formed and in use on January 1, 1944 ans per-see stayed at Werneuchen until threatened by Soviet ground forces in March 1945, where the unit moved to Liebenwalde.
The major task for the gruppe was to test the existing LW night fighters and new equipment, radars was of the highest importance and 3rd staffel tested several He 219A's to see if they were fit for service in the gruppe, Stab./NJGr 10 taking over 1-2 of them for operations.

1st staffel used upwards of 10 Fw 190A-5, A-6 and A-8's from the start through July of 1944 when the unit switched tactics to become a Mosquito hunting unit and an influx of 15 Bf 109G-6 and G-6/AS craft increasing to over 20 after September of 44.
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well gents here is a death card from a site which carries these. 5./NJG 5 pilot flying a Bf 110G-4 died on the 22nd of May 44.
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Old November 28th, 2007, 08:06 AM
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A nice find Erich!
I got a new interesting testimony about a RCAF intruder Mossy which forced Landed a few miles between Freteval and the north of Blois.
I have no exact crashsite nor a date, but the testimony is very detailed. the man talks about a two engined aircraft that belly-landed in a quite good condition. two airmen (RCAF) pow. he's positive about the details because the chief Gnedarme was a friend of his family and he was a kid who was bold enough to ask permission to a German to get in the cockpit, which was granted. he could therefore see all the details and memorize the shape. Later the man told him that the two pows were Canadian. He even saw them earlier getting into a a truck with their hands on their heads. My guess is that the Mosquito was patrolling around the Chateaudun, Blois area and got either damaged or ran out of petrol. The man said it was early in the evening which refers to a P.M. patrol.
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Old November 28th, 2007, 08:03 PM
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Skipper, no date, or time or the variant. sad but those sure would help out so we could hunt down the RCAF squadron. am sure you are quite correct an intruder sortie with express purpose to put the finger on some German transport or low flying LW a/c into landing pattern....who knows upon further investigation something just might turn up, just look at the numerous pages of this great thread and what has been done up for the Campbells
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Old November 28th, 2007, 08:20 PM
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I remember reading about Freteval and the RAF RCAF boys making bets that their mossies could do more accurate bombings than the Americans and Mossies were involved in the destruction of a bridge near Vendome. It was Summer so even in the earlier evening the airmen there could have seen this aircraft fly by. I will focuss on the Summer 1944 pows in the RCAF among Mosquito crews. There shouldn't be that many. I have no date , but a feeling that it would be Summer 1944.
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Old November 28th, 2007, 08:33 PM
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Skipper just walked in from putting up Christmas lights on our Jap maple trees in our backyard......always best for an early start to greet the neighbors on a good note

do you have several of the RCAF squadron histories then ? ....... for Mosquito's. For me I am not sure what is in print

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Old November 28th, 2007, 08:52 PM
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Skipper a light bulb went off in my brain

try this too : The de Havilland Mosquito Page

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Old November 28th, 2007, 09:14 PM
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exactly the place I need to be! I'll post a note later , if I'm still up actually it's getting late here.
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I just posted to an old thread from back in 2006 so when registering give it a bit of time before the automatic email is snet for verification. On a good rainy day besides being here I will have to visit every one of those pages, I see some good stuff, and several threads need an answer

here is another site which somewhat goes along with the Lancaster thread dealing with the Venlo airdrome and I./NJG 1 and their He 219A's. would not of surprised me that this gruppe was up in the air in the June-August 44 nights

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can be viewed in portion by clicking the English flag at top or if you are familiar with the Dutch language and of course Deutsch
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This whole segment "Battle For Europe" makes most enjoyable reading. Not that I have read it all by any means. It will take some doing to top this in the next year. As I said to Sapper no matter how you spend the Season I hope it turns out happy for one and all.
Thank you so much, Alex Campbell
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Old December 14th, 2007, 01:27 AM
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well Alex I do appreciate your honest and truthful replies along with Brian and Ron, Sam and others who have been "through it all"

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Old December 19th, 2007, 08:50 PM
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did a bit of file pulling on JG 301 and to really no surprise I./JG 301 with 3 squadrons were serving in and over France on night missions flying Bf 109G-6's with underwing 20mm gun pods during the June through mid-August 1944 period. Alex and others, these boys may have also been seen and in combat with RAF, RCAF heavy squadrons during the summer raids over the Reich.

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Where they based in France Erich? I thought it was Verneuchen?. Could they have haunted the Chateaudun-Orleans Burgundy-Alsace Axis (from the Loire valley to the German border)? or was this too far from their base?
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forgot to add, here is one of 2 Bf 109G-6/U2's that landed at Manston due to weather and location errors, this is white 16 from 1./JG 301 in RAF markings.......I do think the a/c was junked soon after wars end.......or ?

interesting too the wide red band on the fuselage for the night fighters and the typical day fighter camo for G-6's during the summer early fall of 44.
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