please keep us up dated on the metal floor iif you ever get it lifted
there could be a treaser trove under there all sorts of goodies
and there might be nothink as well
but well done on the great pitchers
best krieg

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I have some pictures from the museum too, as well a sthe old Dutch fortress. Unfortunately I couldn't get in this time as it's open once a month only. I neverthelles got pics of a torpedo, a tank , a flak battery and other items such as drgon teeth. I will scan these later today and hopefully post them in a few hours.

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Anxiously waiting!!!!!

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ok you fellow's
i know the thickness of these bunkers would of been biffrent but what sort of protection would they give the germans
would of an .8inch shell have blowen them away or biger shell needed ???
best krieg...

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it all depends krieg. Some were buried so it's hard to say. At the Cezembre island near St malo, Germans got shelled for days and some survived.

Here is another great bunker. I found this by chance. I climbed on a panorama artificial hill made next to a giant dike at the Rhine delta. This is how I spotted this bunker on on farmland. It was impossible to get closer as it was behind tracks and fenced . The farmer uses it as a stable and a shed. It looks pretty intact !

click on the picture to enlarge it.

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thanks for that .skipper.yes a great lot of protection for then just looking at this one quight thick and and hard to destroy
i have a frend in .denmark .he sent some .pics. of some dunkers a fue years
back still in great con.... best mark

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the hardest thing is to spot them. Some are turned into museum and can be seen by any tourist, others are very visible, but some are only to be found if a local takes you to the place. The best"camouflaged" one was one right down town which was covered with timber and looked like a two dimensional wall behind a playground whereas there is in fact a large bunker behind the wall that is used as a shed. It is surrounded by brick houses that are prewar, so I had no clue there was abunker there. I even saw one used by a french fries vendor. I have pictures of all of these but it takes time to post them. I will a.s.a.p.

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Hi Skipper, nice photo's. I've seen some before.
Maybe next time you come by and visit the Fliegerhorst of Gilze-Rijen?

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I actually thought about calling you but I was with my familly , so I wanted to spare them . The next time I go alone I will defintely drop by for a coffee. the closest I got was Breda but then I headed directly to Rotterdam. I am currently scanning other pictures. Some are already in the photo galery others are on other hosting sites. I will post them this afternoon.

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Breda is just a small 10 km's away. Next time drop by.

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I certainly didn't know I was so close from your home. I was thinking about Tilburg but you're even closer.

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Right in the middle! Between Breda and Tilburg.

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another nice one:

http://www.ww2f.com/photopost/showph...22/ppuser/6723

I took this picture last week while driving past a small forest called "Staelduinse bos". It was hard to get to it as there was barbled wire and a mote to cross. I got all wet and left some of my trousers in the wire but I eventually got to the place. It is partly buried under a dune, but looks intact even though the strategic material has been removed. The difficult access is a Godbless in away: no tourists, no graffiti either! I tired to see who it belonged to and found out there was another part of this same forest that was guarded and state owned and entrance was upon getting a permit only. As I had no time to request one, (I was leaving the next day) I had to leave this place behind. Through the large fence I could see two huge bunkers though.. I got some pictures from a distance which I shall post later. One bunker looked particulary promising! I will certainly go back there next time and ask for a permit and information.

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Time for more: I also went to the old Dutch fortress. This place contolled the access of the Rhine mouth and was originally equipped with Dutch guns. In 1940 the Germans took over and turned it into a giant bakery and Lazarett. In 1943 they took the Dutch guns to Germany to melt them . They were restaured in 1996 but the domes are now in concrete (they just look the same) I will post pictures of these guns later, you can see them on the background of some of the pictures I post below.
For now three new pics :



A German AA battery



A heavy gun (Dutch I think, confirmation needed)



A tank (identification needed)

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Great shots Skipper,
are these all taken around Hoek Van Holland?

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Scott

That is correct Bigfun they are displayed outside the Dutch fortress.

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I thought so, this is on my list of places to see! The more I research Holland, the more WWII sites I find!
Thanks for the pictures Skipper!

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Nulli Cedo = I'll give way to no one.

Scott

yep i second very nice pics would be great to see them thanks foe showing them
best krieg

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Can anybody identify the tank?

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Today three more pictures. Still Hoek van Holland: this time the former Torpedo depot (TorpedoLoods) . Nowadays it's a wellknown restaurant on the harbour .



At first sight you see a restaurant with a flag that says "TorpedoLoods") . appealing isn'it?





then you see some warehouse shaped buildings, now I'm curious! Could this be the former Torpedo depot?



If you still need a clue! No doubt permitted now: this is the former Kriegsmarine Torpedo depot. The hill on the left side is a bunker that is covered up with grass.

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Wow, that's great Skipper!
I really like the torpedo pic!

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...this army made up of ex-resistence men and named by the Prince Himself, became known as the STOOTTROEPEN(Stormtroopers).
Nulli Cedo = I'll give way to no one.

Scott