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June 11th, 2007, 05:56 AM
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Reputation/Prestige System Guide
It's come to my attention that many Rogues are somewhat unfamiliar with the whole reputation system, so I've decided to give a little tutorial about exactly how it works.
There are two related factors, one is Reputation Power, and the other is Reputation Score. Reputation Power is what allows a member to build another member's Reputation Score.
Every one of you Rogues has a rating called Reputation Power. This is a number that reflects the number of points that a member can award another member when they add a reputation comment to a post. For example, let's say my Reputation Power is 5. If were to read a great post by Martin Bull and then decide to add a positive reputation comment to his posts, Martin would have 5 points added to his Reputation Score. If I had left a disapproving message, Martin would have had a 5 point deduction to his reputation score.
When a member joins the WWII Forums, their Reputation Power is zero. There are however several ways that your Reputation Power can increase:
Seniority: For every 365 days a members has served on the WWII Forums, you get +1 to your Reputation Power.
Posts: For every 1,000 posts a member makes on the Forums, you get +1 to your Reputation Power.
Earned Reputation: For every 1,000 points of reputation a member earns, you get +1 to your Repuation Power.
For example, as of this post, our esteemed Rogue Martin Bull joined the WWII Forums on June 20, 2002. He has served here 1,815 days, this earns him 4 years of Reputation Power Points. On June 20th of this year, he will have hit 5 full years, and that will go up one more point to 5. Martin has also made 7,379 total posts, this earns him an additional 7 Reputation Power Points. Finally, since the Reputation System is very new, Martin has earned only 86 Reputation Points from other members who have decided to give positive feedback on his posts. This does not earn him any addition Reputation Power points. So now we add 4 + 7 + 0 for a total Reputation Power of 11. So every time that Martin Bull gives someone a comment he has the power to add or subtract 11 Reputation Points.
All in all it's a fairly simple, the longer you serve and the more active you are on the Forums, the more power you have to effect the reputation of other members.
I've already tasked Peppy with coming up with a better, more military graphical symbol to represent Reputation Score, rather than a tiny colored square.
As a sidenote, I'm toying with the idea of changing the name from the Reputation System to the Prestige Rating System or something similar. This name was inspired by the fantastic WWII strategy game Panzer General (1994).
I hope this helps some of you reputation-phobic Rogues...
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June 12th, 2007, 12:10 AM
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Re: Reputation/Prestige System Guide
There is one more semi-secret repuation factor that I'd like to add. The more your use the reputation system, the better it is for the user. I'm not going to give away the exact details because I don't want some of you sneaky Rogues to abuse the system, but let's just say that the more active you are, the more reputation benefits you get.
I'm not exactly sure why no one has respoded to this post, not that anyone has to. All are welcome to respond to this post if you like...
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June 12th, 2007, 06:24 PM
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Re: Reputation/Prestige System Guide
More on the repuation system, specifically those wierd dots we are using now.
One green dot (  ) is given for every started 100 reputation points.
From 500 points on, one bright green dot (  ) is given for every started 200 reputation points.
One red dot (  ) is given for every started 100 negative reputation points.
From 500 negative points on, one bright red dot (  ) is given for every started 200 negative reputation points
If a user has 0 reputation points, a gray dot (  ) is displayed.
If a user has chosen to turn off reputation in his UserCP, a black dot (  ) is displayed.
It's kind of a crappy system, but it's the one the forum software has come with. Like I said before, I'll come up with something a little more military based than little colored blobs.
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June 12th, 2007, 07:36 PM
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Re: Reputation/Prestige System Guide
Two more quick points, first how to turn the reputation system on, and second how to view your reputation comments.
How to turn your repuation system on.
Von Poop addressed this before in the repuation feedback thread, but I'll repeat what he said:
User CP > Edit Options > first tickbox on that page "Show My Reputation Level" then save changes with the button at the bottom of the page.
Any comments then show when you visit your control panel.
How to view your reputation.
Simply click on the link to your user control panel, it is the "User CP" link at the top left of the page. The last 25 feedback comments, wether positive or negative, will be listed.
Please note that reputation comments are anonymous, so if you want the person to know who is leaving a comment, include your name.
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November 2nd, 2007, 01:04 AM
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Re: Reputation/Prestige System Guide
well I am going to respond Otto ................ ah well ah hmmmmmm............... I'm actually glad I scanned over this real s l o w l y as I understand it now.
Explained simply and if little ol me can understnd this thene veryone else can too ♫
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November 10th, 2007, 12:26 AM
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Re: Reputation/Prestige System Guide
User CP > Edit Options > first tickbox on that page "Show My Reputation Level" then save changes with the button at the bottom of the page.
My first check box option is allow Vcard download and do not have a Show my reputation option. Reputations have been received though. So is this something I can join in?
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Re: Reputation/Prestige System Guide
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User CP > Edit Options > first tickbox on that page "Show My Reputation Level" then save changes with the button at the bottom of the page.
My first check box option is allow Vcard download and do not have a Show my reputation option. Reputations have been received though. So is this something I can join in?
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To me, this looks like question for GröFaZ.
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November 10th, 2007, 07:45 AM
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User CP > Edit Options > first tickbox on that page "Show My Reputation Level" then save changes with the button at the bottom of the page.
My first check box option is allow Vcard download and do not have a Show my reputation option. Reputations have been received though. So is this something I can join in?
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You can join in and are participating in it currently. I just checked, your reputation setting are all on so you can give (or take away) reputation by clicking on the scales icon at the top of every post, and view any reputation you have received by clicking on the "User CP" link at the top left of any page.
vCard is a personal contact system (such as the one used in outlook), if you enable it members will be able to download your contact info from the website. One should always set this for "no" unless you are very familiar with the vCard system.
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November 10th, 2007, 10:20 AM
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Re: Reputation/Prestige System Guide
I can easily see the last 25 rep comments I had, all right.
But it would be nice and useful to be able to follow up the rep points we give to others. Will this be possible?
By the way, it's a pity the Member List does not contain the member's rep information, it would be a nice touch too.
Thanks,
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PS. The Red Rabbi just told me that when he passes the mouse over my little green squares it says "Za Rodinu is a jewel in the trough". Quite frankly, Otto, that's a needless provocation! Champ de Mars, 6 heures du matin, épée. Bring your seconds!
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Re: Reputation/Prestige System Guide
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You can join in and are participating in it currently. I just checked, your reputation setting are all on so you can give (or take away) reputation by clicking on the scales icon at the top of every post, and view any reputation you have received by clicking on the "User CP" link at the top left of any page.
vCard is a personal contact system (such as the one used in outlook), if you enable it members will be able to download your contact info from the website. One should always set this for "no" unless you are very familiar with the vCard system.
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Thanks, I saw the scale but didn't see the check box option so that's great, now I can reward good posts.
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I'm waiting, Oberst
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Re: Reputation/Prestige System Guide
Now, here's one that might be worth persuing:
There are any number of persons that come here looking for real "experts" to help them with stuff their relatives left behind, that they have aquired, or on school work they are doing. I think it might actually be worthwhile to have some sort of general system to identify board members expertise for such persons (as well as feed the egos of those so inclined to need such nurishment.).
I would suggest that members with say, at least 200 posts could petition via a poll for the moderators who would have a final say to have several categories of "expertise" added on their title block next to their names (there is plenty of blank space there now) showing that so-and-so is an expert on the SS or aircraft characteristics or TO&E etc.
I realize that this would be largely ancedotal and self-reported but at least it would give a point of reference for users to start asking for help from. If it became obvious that someone exaggerated badly the moderators could easily strip the listing from someone as they had ulitmate control.
I have an article published years ago on this about wargames clubs that suggested that there were basically three types of people in the "tribe" so-to-speak. The tribesmen, gognards and magi. Tribesmen were the rank and file. They knew little and sided with their particular gognard who knew enough about whatever period was the club's basis to be a credible source of information and game play. Gognards also competed for position based on their ability to win various wargames. The Magi were like Gods. These rarified few were the ones that were experts within the group. Their world was like tablets handed down to Moses. Occasionally, a Gognard might challenge a Magi but usually this resulted in humiliating defeat. A successful Gognard might be elevated to Magi status. Magi disgraced would typically disappear (eg., migrate to other groups). Magi, who rarely played a game with Gognards and never with Tirbesmen, and sometimes were challenged by other Magi, would when challenged pull out all stops to retain their exhaulted position.
I bet if you look you see some of this right here on the board itself!
Well, you might as well codify it into the structure so everyone knows where they stand. It will solidify the "tribe."
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Re: Reputation/Prestige System Guide
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More on the repuation system, specifically those wierd dots we are using now.
One green dot (  ) is given for every started 100 reputation points.
From 500 points on, one bright green dot (  ) is given for every started 200 reputation points.
One red dot (  ) is given for every started 100 negative reputation points.
From 500 negative points on, one bright red dot (  ) is given for every started 200 negative reputation points
If a user has 0 reputation points, a gray dot (  ) is displayed.
If a user has chosen to turn off reputation in his UserCP, a black dot (  ) is displayed.
It's kind of a crappy system, but it's the one the forum software has come with. Like I said before, I'll come up with something a little more military based than little colored blobs.
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I have a question. If a person got 100 negs let alone 500 neg points. I don't think he'd last long enough to recieve that manyy points before doing somehting that will get him "sent to go stand in the corner" for awhile. :-)) Or am I wrong? (which aint the first time)
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Re: Reputation/Prestige System Guide
Hey!!!
nice job on the new rep medals!! that is very cool!!!
keep up the good work!!
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I have a question. If a person got 100 negs let alone 500 neg points. I don't think he'd last long enough to recieve that manyy points before doing somehting that will get him "sent to go stand in the corner" for awhile. :-)) Or am I wrong? (which aint the first time)
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It is rather unlikely Carl, but the reputation system comes like this, so we use what we get.
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Hey!!!
nice job on the new rep medals!! that is very cool!!!
keep up the good work!!
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Thanks bigfun, I though little medals might be a bit better suited to a military forum that nondescript blobs.
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Re: Reputation/Prestige System Guide
Nice work Otto  . Indeed it better fits a WWII Forum
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well look who's back!!
good to see you here Sturm!
got the computer fixed!?
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It is rather unlikely Carl, but the reputation system comes like this, so we use what we get.
Thanks bigfun, I though little medals might be a bit better suited to a military forum that nondescript blobs. 
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Thanks Otto and, cool "battle-stars.!" ;-))
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Re: Reputation/Prestige System Guide
You must be privy to something I can't see...where are these 'battlestars'?
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Ahh...i hit F5 to refresh and now i seem them!
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Re: Reputation/Prestige System Guide
What do the stars look like if the Person has a negative reputation?
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Yes, just noticed them. Good touch!
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The still have the blobs.  No medals should be awarded for bad rep in my opinion.
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Re: Reputation/Prestige System Guide
I have a suggestion. How about giving negative rep people a white feather or something?
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Re: Reputation/Prestige System Guide
It's a good suggestion as it has negative connotations those across the pond, but here in the US the white feather is a positive symbol. It would insulting to some and praising to others.
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