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March 1st, 2008, 10:10 PM
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Re: Them fancy medals adorning our posts
the order is of several grades look at the web-site
sorry Oregon friend but look at your earlier post and what you called the medal, it is not called award of Glory...........ah well
hey look at the top pic on that site and the price of that medal..............YIKES !!
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March 1st, 2008, 10:18 PM
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Hey!!!! Blame the Russian site that I got it from!! Damn translation!! LOL
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March 1st, 2008, 10:26 PM
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send em a dirty note .......... but you may get a reply in Russian ~
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March 1st, 2008, 10:36 PM
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Re: Them fancy medals adorning our posts
Gents, award is properly identified now. Please read my last posting on page four ;-)) and thanks for doing the research that allowed me to finally be correct on this matter ;-)) My Soviet/Russian awards knowledge sucks Prune Pits.
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March 1st, 2008, 10:38 PM
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Re: Them fancy medals adorning our posts
Carl could you give me a $ 13,000 plus loan to pick up the gold grade of the award ???
nah ......... I'd take an RK over that star in a flash
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send em a dirty note .......... but you may get a reply in Russian ~
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I may just do that LOL. Damn Furriners. Can't even speak English LOL.
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March 1st, 2008, 10:42 PM
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as you wish !! Order of the Red Star for $ 59,000.00 big ones
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March 1st, 2008, 10:42 PM
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Carl could you give me a $ 13,000 plus loan to pick up the gold grade of the award ???
nah ......... I'd take an RK over that star in a flash
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Sure, ill loan ya the $13 grand-the checks in the mail.
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March 1st, 2008, 10:44 PM
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Re: Them fancy medals adorning our posts
cool as you posted the same time as my last one please see the star, this is the grand daddy the others come in silver, brass ?, etc .......
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March 1st, 2008, 11:22 PM
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Re: Them fancy medals adorning our posts
Ah HA! Please note my comment on post #93.
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I think it is a mix of medals. Ribbon from one, star from another.
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I didn't name the medals, but I got the dog on the right scent. 
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OK, I found out the problem with this award.
It (the award) appears to be a mixture of two Soviet awards. The ribbon is for the "Order of Glory" and all classes (1st, 2nd & 3rd) had the same ribbon. The ribbon is black and red stripes-black-red-black-red and black.
The red enameled Star is indeed the: "Order of the Red Star" which is a pinback award or one that is also a screw-back award-meaning that this award did not have a ribbon that it hung from and pin or screwback is how the item is attached to the tunic.
So, the "award" is an "Order of the Red Star" with an "Order of Glory" ribbon attached to it.
The "arms" of the Order of the Red Star is enamelled, the center I think comes only in silver and it shows a soldier in greatcoat, standing in a defensive position facing right and is holding his rifle "at the ready."
The Order of Glory, is the award with the black on Red on Black on Red and on Black striped ribbon, the stars "arms" are NOT enameled, a circle is in the middle of the star and contains a wreath and in its center shows the main entranceway to the Kremlin. On the very bottom and inside of the circle, shows I think 5 letters in Cyrillic, and that part does have red enamelling. Apparently all three classes of this award DO have the red enamelling over the cyrillic letters at the bottom of the award. The 1st class is gold in color, 2nd class is silver star but center is gold in color and the 3rd class is only silver in color.
So please bear with me on these if im later proven wrong as Soviet/Russian awards are not my forte-as the German stuff is. However, I am 99% sure that all the above info is correct. ;-)0
WHEW, that was sure tiring to type! ;-))
Well, apparently as I was typing this in, Erich found a great photo of an Order of Glory 1st class. Apparently the first class is Golden with the red enamel over the letters, the 2nd class apparently then is silver with red enamel over the latters and the 3rd class is only silver with red enamel over the letters.
Anyway, Erich, thanks for posting a pic of that award. Now if you have anytime for posting a nice example of an: Order of the Red Star ;-))
It may sound like im repeating myself from above but, all I did was to correct the typed info with the correct info instead of deleting it.
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Re: Them fancy medals adorning our posts
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It (the award) appears to be a mixture of two Soviet awards. The ribbon is for the "Order of Glory" and all classes (1st, 2nd & 3rd) had the same ribbon. The ribbon is black and red stripes-black-red-black-red and black.
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That ribbon comes from the old Order of St. George from Czarist times, instituted in the 17th Cent. It was used as well in the Victory over Germany and Capture of Berlin and other anniversary medals. This orange-black combination was also present for instance in the chenilles of Cuirassier helmets of the Napoleonic period.
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Ehhh, in the last image, rather grey and black...
Lots of tradition, eh?
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Ooops, Moderators-please delete this posting, it was done by mistake ;-))
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March 3rd, 2008, 09:26 PM
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cool as you posted the same time as my last one please see the star, this is the grand daddy the others come in silver, brass ?, etc .......
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Heh heh, the answer is: Unknown. That is how limited I am on Russian stuff. ;-))
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March 14th, 2008, 12:10 PM
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Re: Them fancy medals adorning our posts
Couldn't we start using campaign medals once we run out of normal ones, medals that are awarded to soldiers who participated in a certain campaign.
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March 15th, 2008, 10:51 PM
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Couldn't we start using campaign medals once we run out of normal ones, medals that are awarded to soldiers who participated in a certain campaign.
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Only if we start out with the 1848 Austrian-Tirol Campaign Medal I own :-D
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March 16th, 2008, 11:47 AM
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Fair enough!
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March 16th, 2008, 10:00 PM
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That ribbon comes from the old Order of St. George from Czarist times, instituted in the 17th Cent. It was used as well in the Victory over Germany and Capture of Berlin and other anniversary medals. This orange-black combination was also present for instance in the chenilles of Cuirassier helmets of the Napoleonic period.
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Ehhh, in the last image, rather grey and black...
Lots of tradition, eh?
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Hi Miguel, you'll have to excuse me, I did not have time yesterday to reply to ya as my ride home came 1/2 hr earlier than supposed to.
Anyway, thanks on the rundown of an award I never heard of before ;-)) And lots of tradition--yes-in order to bolster patriotism ;-))
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March 17th, 2008, 09:44 PM
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Ah, yes, this orange and black motif is still used nowadays. Continuity, I suppose.
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March 23rd, 2008, 09:55 PM
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I know there are lots of soviet medals we haven't used, we have only used 2. What about the order of the red star, or the order of the red banner. There are tons for the capture or defense of various places check out this militaria link Collect Russia SOVIET ORDERS AND MEDALS Soviet WWII Campaign Medals Soviet Russian
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