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Old January 30th, 2008, 10:55 PM
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Gotta agree with you on that one, very fond of the order and Nevsky is a pretty inspirational character



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How many posts are you going to need for the gold star of the 'Hero of the Soviet Union?'
Stefan, thanks for the pic. Im not clear what these are worth but I was looking on a Russian MIl site yesterday and I don't know if my eyes betrayed what I saw but I could swear that these sell for in excess of about a mere $350,000????
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Old January 30th, 2008, 10:59 PM
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Another I like is another nice looking badge and I don't know the proper name for it but I think the "Man-on-the-medal's" last name is Kuhlmetzky or something like that? I'll try checking and post back here what the correct name is.
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The order of Bogdan Khmelnitsky?



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The Order of Victory was the highest military decoration in the Soviet Armed Forces and one of the rarest in the world due to the small number of recipients. It was established on 8 November 1943 and awarded only to Generals and Marshals for "successful operation within the framework of one or several fronts resulting in a radical change of the situation in favour of the Red Army". Made of platinum, rubies and 150 diamonds, the sheer value of the order is considerable. The badge depicts the Spasskaya Tower of the Moscow Kremlin, with Lenin's Mausoleum in front.
There are loads more to choose from, I rather like the order of Suverov:

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Fan of the blood donor medals.
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Old January 31st, 2008, 07:24 PM
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Only 18 Orders of Victory was issued, so I doubt you'll find many on the market at whatever price

Zhukov had two!
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True true, but still, they must be worth millions with the sheer amount of stone-work and platinum on them.
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how about the 'order of Victory' for gaudy:





There are loads more to choose from, I rather like the order of Suverov:

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Thanks for these as well Stefan ;-))
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Old January 31st, 2008, 09:57 PM
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Only 18 Orders of Victory was issued, so I doubt you'll find many on the market at whatever price

Zhukov had two!

If im not mistaken, I think one of these was awarded to General Ike.
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Old January 31st, 2008, 11:40 PM
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That's right. Here's a complete list.

Two-time recipients
Joseph Stalin
Aleksandr Vasilevsky
Georgy Zhukov

One-time recipients
Aleksei Antonov
Leonid Govorov
Ivan Konev
Rodion Malinovsky
Kirill Meretskov
Konstantin Rokossovsky
Semyon Timoshenko
Fyodor Tolbukhin
Leonid Brezhnev (Awarded in 1978, revoked in 1989) ( the same a$$ hole who awarded himself 5 Stars of HSU!))

Foreign recipients
Dwight Eisenhower (United States)
Josip Broz Tito (Yugoslavia)
Bernard Montgomery (United Kingdom)
Michal Rola-Zymierski (Poland)
Michael I of Romania (the last living recipient)
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Hey I thought the commies did not want luxuries and wanted to share everything? Their medals are worth millions.
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Commies will want whatever they think people can't get to but hey, that's their way not anyone elses.
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Hearts and minds, Skipper, hearts and minds

In any case after recipient's death these high value orders (same as Marshal Stars, see below) are returned to the State Diamond Fund (which ought to be a sight to see).



Here is the Star of Marshal of the SU hanging from Vasilevsk's neck. Gold, platinum, diamonds.

You can see 5 Orders of Lenin. More platinum Not to mention the 2 Orders of Victory, 2 plus a lot more.

Gen George C. Patton the Russky Baiter was awarded an Order of Suvorov 1st Class, IIRC. Look at this list (non-ehaustive):

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Lt General William H. Simpson - Order of Kutuzov (class not specified) (Commanding General, 9th Army)

Maj General Donald H. Connolly - Order of Suvorov 2nd Class (assigned TDY to USSR from 17 Dec 43 to 2 Feb 44, served as "Foreign Liquidation Commissioner")

Maj General Emil F. Reinhardt - Order of Suvorov 2nd Class (CG 69th Inf Div, made initial contact with Russians at Torgau on 25 Apr 45)

Maj General Walter M. Robertson - Order of Suvorov (class not specified) (Commanding General, 2nd Inf Div.)

Lt General Walton H. Walker - Order of Patriotic War 1st Class, Guards Badge (Commanding General, 20th Corps)

Maj General Albert E. Brown - Order of the Red Star (Commander, US-USSR Commission on Korea)

Colonel Charles F. Williams - Order of the Patritoic War 1st Class (Deputy Chief of Staff, 1st Army)

Brig General Richard U. Nicholas - Order of the Patriotic War 1st Class (head of Engineers for 9th Army)

Maj General William R. Schmidt - Guards Badge (Commanding General, 76th Infantry Division)

Brig General William L. Roberts - Patriotic War (class not specified) (Assistant Divisional Commander, 9th Infantry Division)

General Karl Spaatz - Order of Suvorov 2nd Class (Commanding General, US Strategic Air Forces Europe)

Brig General John F. Conklin - Order of the Patriotic War, 1st Class (head of Engineers, 3rd Army)

Colonel Mason J. Young - Order of the Red Star (head of Engineers, 7th Corps)

Brig General Charles M. Busbee - Order of the Patriotic War, 1st Class (Commanding General, 102nd Infantry Division Artillery)

General Omar N. Bradley - Order of Suvorov 1st Class, Order of Kutuzov 1st Class (it is noted that the Suvorov was presented to him by Konev, and the Kutuzov personally by Stalin!)

Maj General Leland S. Hobbs - Order of the Red Star (Commanding General, 30th Infantry Division)

General Dwight D. Eisenhower - Order of Victory, Order of Suvorov 1st Class

Maj General Stanley E. Reinhart - Order of the Patriotic War, 1st Class (Commanding General, 65th Infantry Division)

Maj Genearl Horace L. McBride - Order of Nevsky (Commanding General, 80th Infantry Division)

Maj General William M. Hoge - Order of the Patriotic War 1st Class (Commanding General, 4th Armored Division)

Maj General Stanley L. Scott - Order of Kutuzov 2nd Class (Commanding General, 104th Infantry Division Artillery)

Brig General Roland P. Shugg - Order of the Patriotic War 1st Class (Commanding General, 13th Corps Artillery)

Lt General Joseph L. Collins - Order of Suvorov (class not specified, but he was awarded it TWICE) (Commanding General, 7th Corps)

Colonel Walter W. Warner - Order of the Red Star (Ordnance Officer, 9th Army)

Maj General Charles H. Gerhardt - Order of the Patriotic War (class not specified) (Commanding General, 29th Infantry Division)

General Matthew B. Ridgeway - Order of the Red Banner (Commanding General, 18th Airborne Corps)

Maj General Ernest N. Harmon - Order of the Red Banner (Commanding General, 22nd Army Corps)

General Mark W. Clark - Order of Suvorov 1st Class (Commanding General, 15th Army Group) (Mark Clark ?!)

Captain Russell L. Meredith - Order of the Patriotic War 1st Class (Air Base Commander?)

Colone Onslow S. Rolfe - Order of the Patriotic War 1st Class (Assitant Division Commander, 71st Division)
This comes from The Soviet Military Awards Page Forum , now there's a new home for both of us, I and The Red Rabbi.

So you see from the above, there's a lot of people implicated , I wonder what Joe Mccarthy did about all these dangerous Communist Sympathizers!

Now, see the difference between adding content and shooting one's mouth off?
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Roguettes? Sounds like a Orchastra or a "Boy-Band" personally either of which I would be delighted to see some explosions!
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Tsk tsk, how wrong you are...
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Lol, I know but still.

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That's right. Here's a complete list.

Two-time recipients
Joseph Stalin
Aleksandr Vasilevsky
Georgy Zhukov

One-time recipients
Aleksei Antonov
Leonid Govorov
Ivan Konev
Rodion Malinovsky
Kirill Meretskov
Konstantin Rokossovsky
Semyon Timoshenko
Fyodor Tolbukhin
Leonid Brezhnev (Awarded in 1978, revoked in 1989) ( the same a$$ hole who awarded himself 5 Stars of HSU!))

Foreign recipients
Dwight Eisenhower (United States)
Josip Broz Tito (Yugoslavia)
Bernard Montgomery (United Kingdom)
Michal Rola-Zymierski (Poland)
Michael I of Romania (the last living recipient)
Thanks for the list of names. Im working on a list of names of Americans who were awarded various Soviet awards in WWII. One thing I can factually say, is that no American was awarded the Hero of the Soviet Union. This info was attained by an esteemed Gent who is a member of a hidden Militaria site, that only three of us here are members of.

Anyway, this Gent goes by the name of Doc, and he, himself, has writen at least one book on the subject. I hope to sometime soon, have the list of names here. I can at this time, get the info on how many and of what Soviet awards were given to Americans--if there is any interest here? As far as I know, none of that info is available on any other site? but, I have not tried researching that yet for lack of time.
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Well, of course I'd be interested, Carl.

The Soviet criterium for awards fluctuated a lot, there were the purely military orders, like the Suvorov, Kutusov, A. Nevsky, Patriotic War, etc. and there were the political orders that might or not have military connotations, like the Hero of the SU, Lenin, Red Banner, etc.

These - I suspect! - were mostly awarded to already members of the CPSU or other foreign Communist dignitaries, therefore I suppose American recipients would be quite rare (unless you're Sen. Joe McCarthy who looked under his bed to see if there were any Commies beneath - and guess what! there were!).

I have somewhere a list of all the recipients of the HSU, and as far as my Cyrillic holds, I have seen few Western names (Kim Philby, Ramon Mercader spring to mind... )



Ahhh, the only photos I find of Patton's right breast are of Gorge Scott!

(It seems he liked my haircut!)
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If I were a Soviet Officer I'd wear the medals to battle, they'd glitter and make the ennemy believe I am a whole division, they would blind snipers and make a great bullet proof jacket too! If I wanted to start a diet I'd just take off my medals and if I wanted to work out I'd lift my medals.
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