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For the first time I have seen "History" at close quarters,and I know that its actual process is very different from what is presented to Posterity. - WWI General Max Hoffman.

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For the first time I have seen "History" at close quarters,and I know that its actual process is very different from what is presented to Posterity. - WWI General Max Hoffman.

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All the Best,

Andy

Pretty funny. I just found that pic earlier.

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For the first time I have seen "History" at close quarters,and I know that its actual process is very different from what is presented to Posterity. - WWI General Max Hoffman.

Hello Gents,

It may not be WW2 anymore...................but I'll be dammed if that's not a russian T-34 tank in ................well i guess you can call it winter camouflage!


It's actually in an old housing estate, somewhere in eastern europe - soviet leftover...........now part of " art " .

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All the Best,

Andy

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For the first time I have seen "History" at close quarters,and I know that its actual process is very different from what is presented to Posterity. - WWI General Max Hoffman.

Hello JC,

Quick question.....having read/looked above.

Would the german's have used the same types of camouflage as the russian's...........ie (white-wash or paint when available) ?

If so, would they have applied it in the same manner as the russians (in most cases just covering the tank/truck - no real pattern.

........or perhaps were they more strict, with (for example) regulations on how it is to be applied, patterns etc...

It's just that I have this idea/image in my head of the russians - rushing all the time (to get their tanks manufactured, painted etc) where as the germans seem to have more attention to detail....get things looking right etc

(also considering what's written on paper 'as the proper way to do it' and then actually carring it out on the field of combat)

what do you think?

Regards,
AndyPants

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All the Best,

Andy

In regards to using white paint or whitewash it was pretty much the same for the Allies as it was for the Axis. Depending on how much time the troops had in the field it was either haphazardly done or completely covering the vehicle. With more time sometimes in a more intricate pattern. The equipment usesd to apply the paint or whitewash also determined what type of pattern they would use. Anything from brushes,hands and mops to spray painting.

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For the first time I have seen "History" at close quarters,and I know that its actual process is very different from what is presented to Posterity. - WWI General Max Hoffman.

Luftwaffe Oberstleutnant Tyroller inspecting captured Soviet T-70 light tank.

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For the first time I have seen "History" at close quarters,and I know that its actual process is very different from what is presented to Posterity. - WWI General Max Hoffman.

Captured Soviet M3 Lee used by the Germans in Mzensk region near Leningrad in January 1943

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For the first time I have seen "History" at close quarters,and I know that its actual process is very different from what is presented to Posterity. - WWI General Max Hoffman.

Thanks for the Info JC

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All the Best,

Andy

Yes, excellent pics!

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The war against Russia will be such that it cannot be conducted in a knightly fashion. This struggle is one of ideologies and racial differences and will have to be conducted with unprecedented, unmerciful and unrelenting harshness. -Adolf Hitler

Thanks to both of you. . Im looking around for more.

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For the first time I have seen "History" at close quarters,and I know that its actual process is very different from what is presented to Posterity. - WWI General Max Hoffman.

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For the first time I have seen "History" at close quarters,and I know that its actual process is very different from what is presented to Posterity. - WWI General Max Hoffman.

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For the first time I have seen "History" at close quarters,and I know that its actual process is very different from what is presented to Posterity. - WWI General Max Hoffman.

Not a Tank but a good example .

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For the first time I have seen "History" at close quarters,and I know that its actual process is very different from what is presented to Posterity. - WWI General Max Hoffman.

Oh yes, thats a famous one.

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The war against Russia will be such that it cannot be conducted in a knightly fashion. This struggle is one of ideologies and racial differences and will have to be conducted with unprecedented, unmerciful and unrelenting harshness. -Adolf Hitler

From most of the photos I have seen so far the use of a white type camo scheme was not as numerous.

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For the first time I have seen "History" at close quarters,and I know that its actual process is very different from what is presented to Posterity. - WWI General Max Hoffman.

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For the first time I have seen "History" at close quarters,and I know that its actual process is very different from what is presented to Posterity. - WWI General Max Hoffman.