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Check thisssssssss out.
http://www.dragonmodelsltd.com/html/20014-p2.html
darn link better still work--took me forever to type it.
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December 14th, 2002, 09:58 PM
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Too small for me, they aren't even 1/72...
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Thats OK by me--reason why is that one can easily afford to buy a Battalion of them instead of a Platoons worth  then one could buy a Corps of Russian tanks to pit them against and make it a realistic ww2 tank battle. [img]smile.gif[/img] I also like the 1/72nd scale stuff too--I used to build dioramas myself.
My best one was a small scene during the Zulu Wars. I Had I think 5-6 British Soldiers from the 42th Regiment of Foot and about 25 Zulus in the diorama. The Britsh soldiers were all behind a low wooden fence--(made out of cardboard and when painted--looked pretty darn accurate). I had one British soldier lying wounded next to the fence, w/ part of a Zulu spear still in his chest. The four or so other British soldiers were either firing their rifles and or were in hand-to-hand combat. Of the 25 or so Zulus I used--I had several on the ground from being shot a short distance away from the fence, and a few more dying next to and in front of the fence. One more was in the act of falling backwards from being shot by one of the British Soldiers at the fence. Another Zulu was being bayonetted by another soldier. Plus there were a few extra Zulu shields and Asagais (Sp?) lying around the scene and two Britsh helmets and a rifle lying a short distance in the front of the fence. All of this was on a square foot styrofoam board (everything of course was hand-painted. I think everything cost me a whopping $4.00 to make this diorama, and I sold it to a museum curator in San Antonio for $100.00. This was about 20 years ago. 
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That sounds nice, I guess one needs to have seen the movie in order to become interested in that era. I like to modify soldiers using glue and swapping torso's etc, the result can be quite impressing. I haven't made any diorama yet as I never really have had the time but I assure you to make another effort during the coming spring.
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I like them. A very nice little tank. I wonder where one could buy them, I don't know of too many stores that carry things like that. 
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December 15th, 2002, 10:11 AM
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Zulu is great film. Carl, I would love to see photos of that diorama if you have any you could post online.
By the way, if you liked Zulu, a couple of more great films set in colonial Africa are the Naked Prey starring Cornel Wilde, Beau Geste starring Gary Cooper and Legionnaire starring Jean-Claude Van Damme.
Notable quotes from Zulu:
Lt. Gonville Bromhead: "Damn the levies man. Cowardly blacks!"
Lt. Josef Adendorff: "What the hell do you mean 'cowardly blacks'? They died on your side didn't they? And who the hell do you think is coming to wipe out your little command? The Grenadier Guards?"
Bromhead: "60! We got at least 60 wouldn't you say?"
Adendorff: "That leaves only 3,940."
The Battle of Rorke's Drift: http://www.planetmedalofhonor.com/fe...icle0017.shtml
Zulu: http://us.imdb.com/Title?0058777
The Naked Prey: http://us.imdb.com/Title?0060736
Beau Geste: http://us.imdb.com/Title?0031088
Legionnaire: http://us.imdb.com/Title?0126388
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Nice Tigers, thanx Carl!
One day I´ll start making those airfix etc models again and here´s good examples how to paint and equip them.
From my teenage years I have one Panther, two Tigers, two Stukas,One Hurricane, one Pz IV, One Sherman, one Catalina.
As well I had loads of plastic soldiers, mostly German...
As you can see the Germans most definitely in my scenario were quite convincing somehow... althought the British did fight well..
Anyway..I noticed a while back there will be a game on quake where you can play Winter war in the net online and kill loadsa Russians...Unfortunately not find the site for this...What will they thnik of next?!

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Thank you CDS. Also any movie with any time period that has military action interests me.
Otto--I agree they are great tanks. I think you can get them online through Dragon and I noticed that Toys R Us carries smaller Dragon items--they might carry these as well--if they do--heh heh--fighting on the Eastern Front will be different this time.
Thanks Crapgame. I do wish now that I had pics of the Roarkes Drift "fence" scene--it was my favorite Diorama of all I ever did in any scale. I had another favorite which had 50 British and 50 japanese soldiers on it. I had the British incorrectly in a trench system (but looked cool anyway) and some foxholes. The Japanese were doing a Banzai Charge. The trench system mainly had wounded soldiers being carried away or tended to as a few reserves were moving into position. The Japanese were at a free-for-all, charging like Banshees and going-for-broke. British MG teams and Piet teams were on the surface protected by sandbags and dirt, the rest of the Infantry was firing fro the trenches except for several British soldiers who had fixed bayonets--who had run forward to lock horns with the japanese. More of a ww1 scene but set in ww2. BTW--I used ww1 U.S.Infantry as at that time--I couldnt find British Infantry--the stores were always sold out of them. And since I couldnt make a ww1 scene--I painted the Doughboys into British soldiers--and I could not get any ww1 Germans so I found a box of Japanese soldiers. This diorama really looked good but was totally wrong with trenches in ww2--and in the PTO.
Probably the best diorama I ever made was using a Wirlwind and a Tiger--that was being attacked by combined British and American Soldiers.
Also--I liked The Naked Prey, Beau Geste (especially the version with Gary Cooper, Ray Milland (and I cant think of the 3rd gentlemans name for the moment) and Legionnaire was well-done. Ive all on VHS. March Or Die was pretty good.
Quite welcome Kai. If you like Ost Front games--get Talonsofts game--Eastern Front--its very coooool. 
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December 16th, 2002, 04:20 AM
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Your PTO diorama sounds very cool Carl. It conjures up scenes from the film Wake Island.
BTW, I just ran a seach and found these Rorke's Drift dioramas online:
http://home.attbi.com/~tsrstevew/RorkDrft/zulu.jpg
http://www.allthequeensmen.com/images/tb387.jpg
http://wmhocker.com/photo/zulu.jpg
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Thanks Crapgame, and it still sits on a not-for-sale display at Roys Camera Nook in Kingsville Texas--along with a Vietnam War Diorama I did and some other stuff. He put those in his shop for me sheeeeeese, somewhat to the tune of 18 years ago.
Nice Roarkes Drift Dois--mine was on a much small se scale and the painting done on the figs in pic 1 was better than mine--although he should have used "Chocolate" paint for the Zulus--they are too dark and resemble natives from Kenya.
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Talking of 'Zulu' ( probably my Dad's favourite film of all time  ) I remember many years ago visiting a Regimental museum ( I think the South Wales Borderers in Monmouth ) and there, in pride of place, was a little wooden seat.
The card read : 'Relic rom the burnt-out hospital building, Rorke's Drift'......
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December 17th, 2002, 06:27 AM
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Speaking of singing ... didn't both Zulu and Breaker Morant, another great film set in colonial Africa, include the song Soldiers of the Queen?
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I dont know what songs were sang--but the one I recognized from Zulu was a good one for Zulu. The Connor Museum in Kingsville Texas also has some Zulu War relics.
One year I volunteered to help do things there and I was lucky enough to be able to go into one of their storage buildings (Weapons from different wars)  and I freaked out t what they had in storage that has never been displayed.
They had more than one Blunderbuss, about 20 or so Flintlocks, several Firelocks, a few Wheeelocks, one rifle with a 6-shot cylinder, another rifle with revolving barrels, several Winchester rifles and Henry rifles, a Johnson rifle with johnson bayonet (which is very VERY Very rare, had a British Henry (From the Zulu Wars period) had a Zulu shield (I think they had 2-3) had an Asigai (Sp?) had a small blackpowder cannon, 1 .50 Cal. machinegun from ww2, 2-3 .30 Cal. Mgs from ww2--all with either different stocks--or mountings, had probably 100 or so Muskets from different wars--mostly the Revolutionary and Civil War eras, and had dozens and dozens of pistols dating from the 1600s to about Korean War times. I couldnt keep my hands off the guns--oh and I forgot--they had many many other swordss, and bayonets too. I remember touching a Confederate Dog River Sword.
What rips my a*** raw is that none of this fine stuff is ever displayed. I think they even took down General Cavazos's uniform down from display. This General was born and raised in Kingsville, and was highly decorated for service in the Korean and Vietnam Wars.
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Really  ! I agree with Carl that you can make a whole regiment of them! However, I do not like that tiny scale. I love soldiers and planes 1/72, but tanks that little makes me feel lazy about building them.
However, you can use one of them to destroy other kid's MicroMachines when they beat you in a competition! 
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Theirs an even smaller scale of German Tanks that I posted in a new thread in the modlers forum. I titled it: "Want to buy a Panzer Division?
Ooops--its called: "Panzer Division for sale."
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