SWASTIKA!!!

ww2buff · #1 (**permalink**) May 22nd, 2003, 06:37 PM

Did any of you know that, in Sanskrit,the swastika was a symbol of good luck? Yea, it represents the swirling rays of the sun. Well, just tell me what you think

Doc Raider · #2 (**permalink**) May 22nd, 2003, 07:03 PM

http://history1900s.about.com/librar.../aa120699a.htm

It was the same in most cultures, from Tibetan to American indian. There is a swastika in the tiles of the original gym here at IU. It used to be pretty popular.

C.Evans · #3 (**permalink**) May 22nd, 2003, 08:33 PM

Did tou know that the Swaz was also a Division patch for an American Inf Div--changes before ww2.

ww2buff · #4 (**permalink**) May 22nd, 2003, 11:32 PM

No, arl, I didn't. Please tell me, which one was it (7th calvary maybe? )

De Vlaamse Leeuw · #5 (**permalink**) May 23rd, 2003, 06:29 AM

The real Swastika wastn't the same as the one of the Nazi's.

Heartland · #6 (**permalink**) May 23rd, 2003, 08:01 AM

The Swastika patch was adopted by the US 45th "Thunderbird" Infantry Division back in 1924.

ww2buff · #7 (**permalink**) May 23rd, 2003, 02:35 PM

Really? Cool. Thanks a lot for the info.

Doc Raider · #8 (**permalink**) May 23rd, 2003, 02:59 PM

Yeah, they were out of Oklahoma and originally had a heavy native am. influence. You can check out the story and buy a repro at http://164.58.87.200/45thmuseum/

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Stefan · #9 (**permalink**) May 23rd, 2003, 04:51 PM

Erwin is right, whilst in many cultures the Swastika was a symbol of good luck and fortune, the Nazis reversed it. I have often wondered if this was intentional.

ww2buff · #10 (**permalink**) May 23rd, 2003, 05:21 PM

Actually, aI think that Hitler did not know about the swastika until he designed for the Nazi Party. I am not sure though.

Stefan · #11 (**permalink**) May 23rd, 2003, 05:27 PM

He should have done, there was one above the gate to the school he went to, he walked under the Swastika every day (which apparently is where he got the idea). Then again, how many kids have no idea what the barious symbols they see around their schools mean?

Greenjacket · #12 (**permalink**) May 23rd, 2003, 08:55 PM

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Originally posted by Heartland:
The Swastika patch was adopted by the US 45th "Thunderbird" Infantry Division back in 1924

How ironic, it was the 45th Infantry Division that liberated the concentration camp at Dachau. One group of (ex)swastika-wearers liberating inmates from current swastika-wearers.

[ 23. May 2003, 04:02 PM: Message edited by: Greenjacket ]

C.Evans · #13 (**permalink**) May 23rd, 2003, 09:07 PM

Heartland beat me to it [img]smile.gif[/img] This is also the division that the very famed and recently deceased ww2 Cartoonist: Bill Mauldin--had served with.

Friedrich · #14 (**permalink**) May 24th, 2003, 01:15 AM

Well, the Swastika, as a nordic mithology symbol of power was used for centuries. In the XIX century and early XX century it was the symbol of many German nationalist and racist groups. What Hitler did was putting it on a white circle and a red flag.

And in the Tibet, the Swastika (not a Swastika, because it has the 'arms' pointing the other way) means 1.000 or plenty.

Bill Smith · #15 (**permalink**) May 24th, 2003, 03:12 AM

Although not a swastika, today, at work, this man walks in with a set of SS runes tatooed on his forearm. Noticing this, I asked him how long he had had his Sigrune tatoo. He commented that he had it done while in Germany 13 years ago. Around Heidelberg. I asked him if he had a Wolfs angel or any other nordic rune tatoos on him, but he said no.

I found it interesting that a tatoo shop in Germany would legally tatoo a man with a set of Sigrunes. Perhaps it was done privately?

Bill

C.Evans · #16 (**permalink**) May 24th, 2003, 05:44 PM

Done around Heidelberg? According to (Munich) there are still some nasty naxi things to see in and near Heidelberg. He told me he would show me some things if I ever got back to Germany. He said taking pics arent allowed. ((Shrugging shoulders)))

De Vlaamse Leeuw · #17 (**permalink**) May 24th, 2003, 08:52 PM

My mother went last year to Munich and she said that there are still the huge places where the Hitler had his parades. Does anyone have pictures of this or know a good site about this.

C.Evans · #18 (**permalink**) May 27th, 2003, 06:17 PM

Many of these places are constantly being destroyed by the German Government these days.

Buildings and places that can be used for positive purposes today--being destroyed because of the past [img]graemlins/no.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/no.gif[/img]

ww2buff · #19 (**permalink**) May 27th, 2003, 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Greenjacket:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Heartland:
The Swastika patch was adopted by the US 45th "Thunderbird" Infantry Division back in 1924

How ironic, it was the 45th Infantry Division that liberated the concentration camp at Dachau. One group of (ex)swastika-wearers liberating inmates from current swastika-wearers. </font>[/quote]That's not ironic, thats FREAKY!!!