Read an interesting article that stated that U.S. might strike Iran as soon as April of 07'

Interesting how this might unravel.

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Oh dear. I was talking to my father about this the other day in the context of the Briitsh role, now I maintain that we should hve turned around to the US an said 'look, attacking Iraq is a bad idea, we can't help you but we will maintain our commitment in Afganistan.' The US would no doubt do what they did to Canada, cause all manner of economical problems and leave the IRA to do it' thing, we would have to get closer to Europe and think about who our real friends are.

The point is, I have a feeling something similar will happen if the US goes for Iran, we haven't the resources to fight so Britain at least will have to say 'sorry Georgy, this is you're party.'

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A U.S. aircraft carrier just left Sand Diego on its way to the Persian Gulf.....

Hmmmm, I wonder where its going???

If U.S. does actually send boots to Iran then there will with out a doubt be a draft in this country

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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16731194/

Why no strike on N Korea? They have missles.

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Well I would say for 2 reasons.

1. U.S. had already been involved in a military conflict with Korea and it didnt exactly go their way, plus Korea has nuclear weapons

2. Korea has no OIL!!!

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The war against Russia will be such that it cannot be conducted in a knightly fashion. This struggle is one of ideologies and racial differences and will have to be conducted with unprecedented, unmerciful and unrelenting harshness. -Adolf Hitler

and why not Damascus ?

Interesting to see what happens

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USS Eisenhower carrier is in Persian Gulf since december I believe, and will soon be joined by USS John C. Stennis.

When was the last time USN had 2 carriers in the Persian Gulf ?

I think we can imagine air strike (planes, missiles) and the reinforcements in Irak would be aimed at control a massive Shii uprising in Irak following strikes in Iran.

I found some comments on the web, but I don't know what it's worth and neither if source is serious :

«We asked a friend out on the West Coast for his assessment of the new deployments, which confirms the actions ARE aimed at Iran, but in a balanced way, all things considered. For something really “up”, he warns, watch to see a change in deploying the Nimitz:

»“Carrier USS John C. Stennis today (16 Jan 07) departs home port Bremerton, Washington, en route to San Diego to pick up its carrier air wing before sailing west to the Persian Gulf. There, the Stennis strike group will join the USS Dwight D. Eisenhower strike group. The Eisenhower recently has been operating off Somalia.”

»“(Stennis strike group had been scheduled to cover routinely for USS Kitty Hawk in the western Pacific this spring while the Yokohama-based carrier underwent repairs. The Pentagon announced 20 Dec 2006 that Stennis strike group would sail early, deploying instead to the Gulf. The Pentagon announced 11 Jan 07 USS Ronald Reagan would skip normal work-up phases and deploy within several weeks to provide the routine coverage in western Pacific during Kitty Hawk's repairs.)”

»“Last week the Pentagon also announced deployment to the Persian Gulf region of a Patriot battalion of the 11th Air Defense Artillery Brigade, which is primarily suited for defense against short-range ballistic missile attack. The primary ballistic missile threat in theater is Iran. UK will contribute two minesweepers and a frigate.”

»OK...so what does this mean?

»“The deployments are aimed primarily at Iran. USG cites Iranian material support for attacks on US personnel and states concern that Iran and other opponents may view U.S. as vulnerable. As the new strategy unfolds to clear and hold Baghdad neighborhoods, protecting both Shi'a and Sunni populations while jump-starting economic and political recovery, and as US clears Iranian networks providing material support for attacks on US forces, USG is rational to have theoretical concern for possible retaliatory strikes. This concern is amplified at the margins by tensions over Iran's nuclear program. Scenarios could include opposition strikes on US assets and Persian Gulf shipping.”

»Isn't this going to spur on the crazies in the Amadinejad camp?

»“This deployment is carefully calibrated. It could have been larger. Increasing to two carrier strike groups in the AOR serves as a firm signal and deterrent, reminding everyone US has bench strength; the US also still can ‘reach out and touch someone.’” Along with announced deployments of two UK minesweepers and the Patriot battery, it is also an actual contingency force that has significant defensive and offensive capability (e.g. ., could initiate heavy 24 hour air ops if necessary).

»OK. . .what to watch for if the US really thinks bad things are about to happen?

»“On the other hand, increasing to three carrier strike groups would be noticeably more ‘robust’, belligerent and suggestive of intending or anticipating attack. The difference between two and three strike groups is huge. Two is strong and capable, but existing offensive intent is less probable; three is ‘we don't care about provocation, we're preparing to fight in this new dimension’.”

»(An indicator would be to watch for announcements about Nimitz strike group; Nimitz reportedly has completed the routine pre-deployment work-up and is in San Diego.)»

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I do not believe an attack on Iran is imminant. The Americans barely have the manpower to perform its current taskings. Secondly, Congress would not allow such a thing to happen. Bush has bundled the current one.

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I dont know PzJgr, 2 mine sweepers and a frigate, they seem to have almost the entire RN there now. Just a couple oftypen 42's and HMS Ocean to go...

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I guess speculation is fun gents ?

we have our own "people" placed in Tehran and Damascus. what makes everyone think on this thread we need to go in big time ? how do we know Israel is not going to go ahead and slap Tehran silly so my VELODROME can be built huh ? think too many are believing media as fact

have fun

Yes, maybe Israel will strike Iranian nuclear facilities (if they know their location) like they did for Osirak.

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will tell ya that Israel knows .......... it is just a matter of time.

well I feel we need a whoop-Ass pres who will get whatever needs to be done and then homeward bound to get our country up to snuff. It has been play time long enough. not sure what 08 will bring, but not wild at all who is running up against each other for Pres hopefuls for the demos, but that is another thread starter

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Ahh, apparently the US is having real problems in Terhan because so many of the once Pro-US Iranians who once provided help have turned against the coalition for various reasons.

I don't know, I reckon something is on the cards for Iran, just hope the UK has the sense to say 'not this time fella!'

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and Stefan you are watching this from what media network ? of course what appears and what does not are two different entities.

don't want to get all caught up in the what-ifs but as I pointed out, just by eliminating one terrible islationist and his staff could really upset things in the mid-east for good or maybe the opposite. why get a whole truckload of troops involved in another hot spot though that is a generalization the whole sphere is and alawys will be a "HOT" spot

again do not forget what is stationed above Israel - Syria

Bush has run out of political power and if he starts something in Iran there will be a move to impeach him. Congress and the people have had it with his incompentence.

I thought Mr Blair was going to stand down early in the year. If he does I am sure the new PM will not make the same mistake.

Retired Generals I have seen on the news say the Army is worn down and so is the equipment. Sand is the worse thing for anything mechinical and being away from your family tour after tour will kill your marriage. The troops going to Iraq know nothing is going to be changed by them being there so most will have low moral and resent being sent there.

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As much as I was and still am strongly opposed to the war in Iraq, I strongly believe that unlike Saddam, Ahmadinejad is a true nut. And what makes him sooooo dangerous is the simple fact that he is umpredictable. Not to mention that he runs a country half the size of Europe and a much stronger and more capable military then Saddam had at the time of the U.S. invasion.

Iran is the country that U.S. should have gone into and not Iraq!!! But because of our BRILLIANT commander and chief, the U.S. finds itself in a little dilemma.

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screw polls especially from commie backed media presenters

yes Bush has blown it from the simple fact of not a lighting bolt campaign.

I remember all to well the Tehran wimp with his collegues trying to chew up and spit out our boyz during the embassy takeover ....... it is still very fresh in my mind. the man was warped in his youth and just as corrupt today in his older years.
His time fast approaches, yes bring on your so-called last amim that will secure the ending of the Gentile age ............ you kook.

lets face it ladies and gents we are not getting out of the mid-east entirely no matter who is in office or the ratings game

My velodrome awaits

Hey, don't shoot the messenger. I just posted this for you gents to discuss.

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TAG : please explain, because it's too idiomatic for me to understand and I end up being unable to interpret :

- whoop-Ass
- velodrome building ??
- up to snuff

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