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Old June 28th, 2008, 10:04 PM
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Can this go under the topic of: "Kids Say The Darndest Things?"

Being I currently still use a computer at the local branch library I come to, I often here young kids say some interesting things. Today was no exception. Some background info. This branch library (as well as all others here) have all-kinds of SUmmer programs and things happening that many Mothers bring their young kids to.

Well, today they had some Clown act here in the next room. After the show was overwith and most of the people had already left, I heard a kid who was no more than about 6-7 years old-say this-talking to his Mother: "That kid is too Nazi, he doesn't listen to his mother."

Two of the librarians looked at me and I looked at them at the sametime-none of us believing what the kid had just said and almost laughing about it. I'd have laughed but that comment got me to thinking????? I know that this kid is already in school-the first grade-to be exact-as I heard the mother tell one of the librarians about what grade he was in and that he was a bright student. What gets me is, where on Earth would this kid get the idea from-to use the word Nazi, in that way? The answer is, from some moronic Public School teacher who doesn't know what time it is. The remark may be completely innocent but, that tells me that terminology is being abused and mis-used.

This reminds me of a remark that so-called Reverend al sharpton used when he was complaining about something in the news that had to do with something racial. His quote was in regards to something terrible that had happened and, I noticed how he stressed the word: "Confederate" at least two times during his reply to what was going on.

First they try to get the Confederate Battle Flag banned, and now, I think in his opwn sly way, he's trying to make the word Confederate, to be something akin to what the word Nazi; stands for.

Am I right or am I wrong?
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Old June 28th, 2008, 10:54 PM
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You are right Carl, the Kids Say The Darndest Things....

However IŽd think the kid at that age has no real clue to what he might be saying or referring to except that it is "cool" to say that for one reason or another. Definitely someone taught it to him whether it is someone in the family or not. Personally IŽd try to tell this to the family to watch the kidŽs language and get the N-word out.
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Yes, Confederate, Dixie and anything else associated with the Old South is taboo now.

Our youngest dog is name Dixie.
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Yup. Don't think that they are using it in a literal sense. Just another slang word. Most famous use of it, 'Soup Nazi' from the Seinfeld show.
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Old June 29th, 2008, 09:26 PM
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Let me put up a few web sites of the kind of professors in education colleges today that are teaching the teachers. Yes, what follows are some of the more extreme (including one of the worst of the worst) but, be aware, these people are who are teaching teachers what to teach:

Peter Mclaren: Critical Pedagogy, Paulo Freire, Marxist Humanism, Eco-socialism, Critical Social Theory and Education for Liberation

Be forewarned, the intro is a bit Leftist...

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Some of the slang that kids use is pretty weird, but then again I use "dude" all the time! What can I say I was a teenager in the 80's, and that was huge then!
Anyway, funny stuff Carl!
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Let me put up a few web sites of the kind of professors in education colleges today that are teaching the teachers. Yes, what follows are some of the more extreme (including one of the worst of the worst) but, be aware, these people are who are teaching teachers what to teach:

Peter Mclaren: Critical Pedagogy, Paulo Freire, Marxist Humanism, Eco-socialism, Critical Social Theory and Education for Liberation

Be forewarned, the intro is a bit Leftist...

http://www.conncoll.edu/acadenics/we...le/grande.html
That Peter McLaren certainly appears to fancy himself a "purdy" thing.
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Let me put up a few web sites of the kind of professors in education colleges today that are teaching the teachers. Yes, what follows are some of the more extreme (including one of the worst of the worst) but, be aware, these people are who are teaching teachers what to teach:

Peter Mclaren: Critical Pedagogy, Paulo Freire, Marxist Humanism, Eco-socialism, Critical Social Theory and Education for Liberation

Be forewarned, the intro is a bit Leftist...

http://www.conncoll.edu/acadenics/we...le/grande.html
Apparently being an ass ranks high in some circles education. Methinks there are many, too many, more like this than we are aware of..........

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Carl -- I would not read too much into the child using "Nazi" out of context. Kids will pick up on a word and use it out of context because their peers do it. I recall using several words out of context back in the 70's because my friends were all doing it and, by doing so, we gave new local definitions to the word.

As for Al Sharpton, he panders to his constituency and his constituency won't know any better. It is a shame.


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Agreed. Te kid just heard this somewhere and reused it in his own way. I doubt his parents or teachers have anything to do with it whether leftwing or not.
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"Nicotine Nazi" is the current phrase over here to describe anti-smoking activists, rightly or wrongly.
On the Confederate flags bit, 15 years ago some mates and I used to run a '50s Rock n' Roll club. One night a visiting "mature" student took exception to the usual Confederate flags hanging up and started calling us all a bunch of racists, KKK and various other things. He barely escaped with all his teeth.
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LONDON (Reuters) - A student who scribbled an expletive on an English language exam paper was awarded 7.5 percent for accurate spelling and effective communication, The Times newspaper reported on Monday.


The pupil, who wrote "f--- off" after being asked in an English exam to "describe the room you are sitting in", got 2 marks out of 27 and would have got more if he had added some punctuation, chief examiner Peter Buckroyd told The Times.

"It does show some very basic skills we are looking for -- like conveying some meaning and some spelling," said Buckroyd, who works for the Assessment and Qualifications Alliance examinations board. "It shows some nominal skills but no relevance to the task".

"If it had had an exclamation mark it would have got a little bit more because it would have been showing a little bit of skill".

According to The Times, to gain minimum marks in English GSCE papers -- an exam taken by hundreds of thousands of 16-year-olds across England every year -- pupils must demonstrate "some simple sequencing of ideas" and an ability to put "some words in appropriate order".
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Over here we tie guys like these into a bag with a stone and throw them into the river. The bag is hessian for environmental reasons.
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Carl, don't read too much into it (or indeed be too quick to blame teachers), I remember when I was at primary school calling a kid in my class a 'pervert.' I had no idea what the word means, I had heard someone else use it and knew it was bad, these things happen.

That said, there are a lot of things people say that don't make sense, 'nicotine nazi,' who applies national socialism to tobacco??? On a more basic level (and to paraphrase the late, great Mr Carlin,) 'lets get on the plane,' you can do that if you like, I'm getting IN the plane as I imagine it's a lot less windy.

Incidentally has anyone here seen Louis Theroux on his visit to the Westboro Baptist Church? I watched it last night, the adults I could deal with but the kids talking about 'fag soldiers' and so on without having any idea what the words meant, now that is when it's time to worry.
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Thanks for all your input Gents. Not to worry, I didn't take it too much on what the kid had said but, it was just such an unusual thing to hear a boy his age-to even know the word Nazi.

On the Confederate and C/battle flag part. I used to have and fly, an American flag, followed by a Confederate battle flag as well as a Jack-which I flew in my front yard of my house in Kingsville. I wish that some of you gents could have been there. I mean, not once did I have anyone say anything dissending towards flying the battle flag-as well as Old Glory. However, one of my neighbors called the Police on my because she thought I was flying the nazi flag-which she had mistaken the Jack to be. Well, I had been flying all three flags almost daily since moving to that house circa November 1991.

This is the same house I lived in where I also used to clean all my guns-in full view of anybody-in my front yard-including that Chinese made Uzi copy I once had. Well, I was inside my house watching the World Evening News (NBC to be exact) when I saw two cop cars drive up and stop on the street in front of my house as well as one stopped in my driveway. One policeman was busy taking Polaroid shots of my three flags flying and in order of precedence.

I walked outside to see whattheheckwasgoingon? and the Sergeant came over to me and started asking about the flags. I said well, of course there was Old Glory-at the top, then the CSA battle flag in the middle, and lastly, the Jack. I was asked why I was flying three flags-and simply put, I said because I could do so, that there was plenty of room on the flagpole, that all three flags represented my families heritage and that all three flags were red-white and blue.

I asked if there was something wrong with flying three flags-I knew two were OK but not sure if three were? The Sergeant told me there was nothing wrong with flying three flags-especially since they were done so in correct order. He then told me that someone said I was flying a nazi flag-to which I was not-and I had at the time, never even owned one. The sgt asked why I was flying the British flag, and I stated again-because it is part of my heritage.

Finally the sgt said it was all a big mistake and no big deal and that he wished me a nice day. When they left, I went inside and brought out my Pirate flag and added it to the ""collection.""

When I was outside, I always got thumbs-up and honks from passers-by-and every now and then, someone would stop by and ask if I were selling the battle flag-or any of the others.

Anyway, what that kid said to his mother, just struck my as a very odd thing for him to say. But knowing a few of the school teachers teaching in Kingsville, it would not have been a surprise to me to hear that even firstgraders-were being "indictrinated" to the beliefs of teachers who lean to the left. That's OK IMO but, there needs to be a balance on this so that opinions will be made-with open minds.
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Kids absolutely do say the darnedest(?) things. My 8-year old asked me the other day, "Daddy, why did they kill Jesus?"

My response? Er...Um...Well....We'll talk about this in the morning at breakfast.

The other point I would make here is that the boy at the library was just as likely to pick it up from Mom or Dad as his teacher. Any parent will tell you from experience that kids repeat exactly what they hear from their parents, both good and bad.
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Hi David, that sounds like im sure what it is in that this boy got what he said from one of those sources you listed. I remember one time-back when I was about four years old--and said something i'd not say today-as back then it could have probably gotten us killed and certainly would now. :uhoh:
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Lol, C! One really must change ones vocabulary when a parent.
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