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  1. Takao

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    Because deregulation of the airlines, banking, cable television, electricity, and telecommunications, has been sooooo successful.
    Same services provided, but costs have gone sky high, and hidden charges abound.

    But George Mason University cares not a whit about that...
     
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    The coal mining companies have been doing that for years without Hillary's help.

    The number of miners has been steadily decreasing, yet the production per miner per hour has been steadily increasing...
    How is this possible?
    Say it with me class...Mechanization.
    More machines, more production, less workers.

    Amazing how this progression escapes a lot of people.

    Even more amazing are the suckers that believe Donny will put a stop to it.
     
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    I wrote:
    Of course it has [that Poland is worse in this regard], although this doesn't prove that the US doesn't need some trimming of its bureaucracy.



    not true, I hope you know what google ngram is:
    fake news.jpg


    Karma... Like winning elections in the sole remaining world superpower, against all odds. I wouldn't mind some of that karma...


    At the expense of the investors who lost their money, and at the expense of all the people working in/connected with the coal industry.
    It's easy to do things at the expense of others. Especially those without money and influence - like American workers.

    This transition would happen naturally, in the course of several years giving everybody the time needed to adapt - painlessly.
     
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    And? Does the ocean belong to them?


    Those people didn't have political clout. This is why they are on the verge of bankruptcy today.
     
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    Maybe a few examples?
    I think you badly need to visit some country where those things aren't deregulated like Venezuela, Cuba, Ukraine, North Korea.
     
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    from: liberty.me

    Finally, on both sides of the Atlantic our citizens are confronted by yet another danger; one firmly within our control. This danger is invisible to some but familiar to the Poles: the steady creep of government bureaucracy that drains the vitality and wealth of the people. The West became great not because of paperwork and regulations but because people were allowed to chase their dreams and pursue their destinies.
     
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    I've given you 5, how many more do you want?

    If it's all the same too you, I prefer the working conditions of the 21st century to those of the 18th and 19th centuries. My job's not worth dying for.
    Thank you regulations.
     
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    Hmmm...Chasing...Pursuing...Says nothing about actually achieving those dreams. Probably because they died before they were achieved.
     
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    No more than the ocean belongs to Big Energy.

    Awww....Donny's had 6 bankruptcies...Are you saying that has no political clout?.
     
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    The West became great because of the rule of LAW...money generated is spent on the economy, infrastructure, health, education...NOT going into the pockets of the ruling elite...simple. Real democracy is why the west is great.
     
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    So, let's see you be critical of Poland then...If the US needs some trimming, Poland needs a full blown makeover.

    Oh...Most Ceratinly True!

    As usual, you persist with more lies...Or else, you do not know what a Google ngram is, or how to read one.
    For instance...You have cut off the percentages of books that used the term. Why did you do this? To hide the infinitesimal percentages of the term's use.
    For example, the big peak in 1939, amounted to 0.0000009519%. Is that not a ridiculously small amount?
    Then, for your "10 years" ago, which would be 2007 the term appeared in 0.0000016462% - Again, a ridiculously small percentage to be considered "popular."

    So, congratulations on scoring an "own goal" by proving my point and disproving yours. Thank you for your support.
     
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    On the brighter side of things...If you would become President, you could only improve how people viewed Donny's Presidency. We thought Donny was bad, just look at that clown .wm. Compared to him, Donny's 4-year presidency was heaven.

    Just look at Obama, and having Bush II & Donny as bookends greatly improved how people viewed his presidency.


    Welcome to the real world my friend. It happens all the time, over and over, and over again. I had it happen to me when I was in the tech industry back in 2002. You pick yourself back up and get on with your life.
     
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    Well, in Poland central government employment accounts for only 9.6% of the working population and just 0.32% of the total population...which may explain a lot.
     
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    Please delete second post...
     
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    From a news outlet concerned mostly with (from its main page):
    - human Ken doll could lose nose
    - world’s most courageous ninja warriors
    - guy Sebastian shows off his super-ripped body
    - Klim attacks ex Lindy on social

    it's all clickbait trash from a clickbait website.
     
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    The number of bureaucrats in Poland since the fall of communism. This year the number reached 620,000.

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    from resulto.pl

    Additionally there are 3.15 million people on the public payroll, paid mostly from taxes.

    The communists needed three times less officials to rule Poland.
    Everybody knows that, everybody sees it as a problem, and no-one has the courage to do something about it.
     
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    Well, Marx would be proud that his teachings, like those statements above, are so popular today.

    The US had become rich well before any major regulations arrived.
    In the twenties, in the thirties, even in the middle of the Depression American farmers/workers lived better than any of their counterparts on the entire planet.

    The drove cars when the Germans drove horse-carts, and rode bicycles (although not everybody could afford this luxury unfortunately).
    In the USSR they didn't have even bicycles, and frequently didn't have shoes. Sometimes they cooked their children for dinner, but that's ok, they were fellow socialists after all, right? It was all for the greater good.

    The supposedly damning to the American system "The Grapes of Wrath" couldn't be shown in the USSR because the people there thought it was filmed in paradise.

    You want more regulations, you can have it:

    the price of electricity (in European cents)
    in Germany, Denmark, Italy = 30,
    in the US = 9,

    price of gas (per liter):
    Germany = $1.42,
    USA = $0.67,

    Economic development in Europe - depressed, for many years.
    Major innovations - almost non existent. Where are European Tesla, Spacex, Uber, Facebook - anything.
    Grass root activism - weak.
    Germany is repressively censoring Internet right now. The UK implemented total, warrantless wiretapping of its Internet.

    In almost all respects Europe is inferior to the US.
    Please make the US like Europe, the Americans will be greatfull for sure.
     
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    There's an illness in current democracy to be sure...it's been identified, we need new people to rectify, not throw out an almost perfect system...that's not communism or socialism..although has a healthy dose of it included, because we all aren't the same. What you seem to be talking about is economic freedoms...not neccesarilly a democratic norm but slides hand in glove with the theme of 'freedom'...one needs resources and infrastructure to generate an economic freedom that works...a lazy or corrupt system/government can stem the supply of both. Put simply the economic problems Europe is facing has little to do with democracy, and will also spread in time as economies evolve into the new future...some will understand and take hold while others will,whither on the vine. Great countries stay alive and great by using its talent to stear the way...not weird billionaires or rappers, or devout religious people for that matter...
     
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    It's not democracy, Europe is democratic.
    It's the people, they have been a part of the system all their lives. They can't even imagine anything different.

    The number of laws, rules, regulations is mind boggling, and they are changing all the time.
    You always have to ask for permission, just in case - because mistakes are very costly.
    You have to be a virtual genius or very lucky to get a driver licence. The exams are incredibly complex, time consuming, and costly. The poor can't afford them anyway - but that's ok, that makes to roads less crowded for the rich.

    You always have to have your papers with you, otherwise you will be fined or arrested.
    You always have to be registered with the state, like a dangerous dog. Traveled somewhere? You have to registered again (in Germany they give you 24h to do that, if I'm not mistaken).
    The IRS can confiscate all your wealth at any moment, they don't have to prove anything, and you can't appeal their decisions.

    Europe is democratic, but the people are not free.
     
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