I stumbled upon this breathtaking preview of the game that any gamer on this forum would play - Hearts of Iron!

I am not going to try and stumble my way through explaining this game, so check out the preivew : http://gamespot.com/gamespot/stories...874668,00.html

I will say that this game was helped developed by historians! Over 700 technologies from Naval Doctrine to Rocket technology in the most detailed tech research and wargame ever made. Yeah, I am rambling, but I am a die-hard gamer and this blew me away.

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'The "glorious" fight of the so-called partisans was nothing more then a mean, common murder.'
- Kurt Meyer, after his loyal comrade Heinz Schrott was killed by perfidious French partisans while wounded in a street.

Thanks. One to watch for. Could not find any realse dates for Europe. Any ideas.

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Proud to be a GRUNT

I've known about it for a month or so, and its made by the same people who made europa universalis...but i dont think we should get our hopes up. Anyone ever heard of "superpower?" Colossal dissapointment.

Don't get me wrong though, if HOI is done right, it will blow everything else away.

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I first read about this 4 months ago, but sweet jesus, look at those screen shots!
Hey what wrong with super power, if you download the patch its much better. And the longer you play it the better the AI gets.

[ 18 July 2002, 08:12 PM: Message edited by: Carl Von Mannerheim ]

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Let me tell you, this is going to be the best ww2 game ever, take my word for it.

Sorry Im so late in response.

CvM; Superpower is great until North Korea occupies Canada while England turns into a dictatorship and is overrun by Cuba. Add to that world war 3 erupting because Mexico attacked Nigeria. And China conquered most of the world, but left the homefront undefended, meaning I, as Paraguay, took cotrol of the entire world by 2003. And this is with the patch. Hopefuly Superpower 2 wont be the same way.

Ashberry; welcome to the forum, if you havent been already. And you just might be right about HoI. But Im looking forward to Battlefield 1942 and Combat Mission Barbarossa to Berlin as well...

BTW, beware of Friedrich...he might take offence at your theft of his avatar!

[ 09 September 2002, 12:10 AM: Message edited by: dasreich ]

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"If your gonna buy the angel s**t, you might as well go for the zombie package as well."
-George Carlin

This game looks to be the ultimate strategic game of WWII so far, and as a patriotic Swede I see it as my duty to post a couple of review and preview links. [img]smile.gif[/img] Only a week to go until Swedish release....arghhhh...

Strategy Gaming Online has given it a Editors Choice award. http://www.strategy-gaming.com./revi...on/index.shtml

The Wargamer Preview:
http://www.wargamer.com/reviews/heartsofiron_preview/

[ 22. November 2002, 02:08 AM: Message edited by: Heartland ]

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Rush of blood and over we go..."
- Iron Maiden, "Paschendale"

My first game is going to be as Finland, then as the US, then Germany, then Britain,

cVm

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Very interesting game. I like it!

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Anybody gotten to this game? I just got the whole version, pretty dissipointing, may get better with patches, I heard though that like Romania can concour USSR.
Ive played with Britain, Canada, Finland, Sweeden, Austria, and USSR, all except I guess Sweeden have flaws.

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Yep, I have played it quite a bit by now, and yes, there are definitely some flaws. Overall though, I think it is an absolutely marvellous game at this point, the research tree alone is worth the admission... [img]smile.gif[/img]

Before the first patch Romania tended to send their cavalry out on some wild territory-grabbing exercise in the souther USSR, while the Red Army was busy fighting the Wehrmacht. Of course, now (with patch 1.03b) the USSR AI in general works a lot better than it did in the beginning, when the USSR was a pushover for the Germans. That is no longer the case fortunately...

What specific flaws are you thinking about?

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"Nervous wait for the whistle to blow
Rush of blood and over we go..."
- Iron Maiden, "Paschendale"

Let's see, just a research screenie for those who haven't read about the game...

http://gamespot.com/gamespot/filters...0.html?page=78

[ 12. March 2003, 02:12 AM: Message edited by: Heartland ]

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"Nervous wait for the whistle to blow
Rush of blood and over we go..."
- Iron Maiden, "Paschendale"

Flaws-
Britain- There convoys are all down in the med like a month after the war starts. With that troops can not survive.
Finland- Countries like Brazil, Other South American countries are stronger then them, makes 0 sence, they never survive the Winter War, even if there sent Expiditionay forces.
Canada- Does not know how to make transports? How did troops get across the Atlantic in WW1? and They cannot send Airfleets to Britain inless they get long enough range, Cant build aircraft carriers, and again some South American countries have as good of industry.
USSR- Flaws all over, dont know where to start.
Austria- Really strong, they can build a army of 30 divisions and fight the Germans in 1938.
Commonwealth dont share tech? and the AI wont share either.

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Dunno, the USSR seems to work fine for me, and the tech seems pretty much according to history. More often than not Finland survives in my games, which seems pretty reasonable.



Haven't seen them do this in a single game though, and they are anschlussed rapidly anyway...

Dunno, as the USSR I swayed the Romania to my side with some clever diplomacy, and they certainly sent me some tech. Well, some backward ones anyway.

Overall, the AI does a pretty decent job left to itself, it's when a human grabs a nation and starts min-maxing resources that things get a bit screwy. Like setting ALL resources to a certain research 1936-1938, then setting ALL resources to production to build large armies of super-advanced whatchalike.

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"Nervous wait for the whistle to blow
Rush of blood and over we go..."
- Iron Maiden, "Paschendale"

Ive been playin this game more and more, excellant game.

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HOI is a GREAT GAME! I only bought it several days ago but am addicted to it. I love its replayability, level of play, tech tree, and combat. Multiplayer is also great fun.

I have started an AAR (Of Slavs and Serbs: An AAR) on the HOI Forums. Its my first AAR (AFTER ACTION REPORT) and i still working out a style. I am also playing as Yugoslavia - very challenging. Lots of fun though -best game i have played yet.

EU2 (Europa Universalis 2) uses same engine (HOI derived its engine from EU2 - same company and what not) and is also a really good game for 1400 - 1816 AD Game (any country in existance during that time period is playable - even the Zulus!)

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I played as Yugoslovia and won!
I invaded and concoured Bulgaria and Albania, Then Germany took France, went with Danzig or war- and lost it- they were being blown away by Poland, so I joined Allies- attacked- by this time Poland had concoured Germany Most of Italy- and liberated parts of France, I captured Slovakia- Declared War and took Hungary- and only part of Italy I got was Sicily. Pretty messed up.

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Hehe....yeah. Well, i dont have much tech right now (only mid 1937) but i did conquer Hungary (with tremendous losses). Good fight though. Albania had no military, so i set up a puppet Regime. Looking towards Bulgaria next. Forces are definately not ready. Organisation down around 35 at tops.

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yes, Albania was bloodless-Bulgaria too-put about 15 divisions, just took the area's with victory points-minor air support-knocked out Bulgaria in week.

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Bulgaria that easy? Their capital is the only province that lays on my border, and they have some 12 Units/Divisons stacked there - all sorts by the looks (def some Cav and air units) plus another 3 in the next province over. Gonna be another long and costly war. I wont attack in Cold Weather though, and will make sure to look more at the Weather Map Mode for my airforce and what not. Gotta learn from my mistakes sometimes.

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Hope you only built mountain troops, send them in, 4 of those 12 will be air, so think of it as 8- some might be cav(worse defence). and I believe after declaration of war they will spread out to possibly even all provinces.

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Well, i went in with 12 Inf Divs vs 9 or so of their own. Mtn Divs are worse in Mtns. when up against Regular Inf. I made a succesful attack in the neighboring province and manged to capture the remaining two provinces while the fight went on. Took less then a month total before Bulgaria was annexed. I am also part of the Axis, along with Germany and Italy and Albania (of all countries). Turning attention to Greece - but they have land fortifications of 5 so its gonna be one helluva figt.

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Its Sept 1940 - Italy has North Africa, and working on the Mid East and Mid - Southern Africa. Germany controls rest of Europe (and Vichy France) and also controls Belfast (Ireland). As Yugoslavia, i have 4 Mtn. Divs defending Berlin (on loan to Germany) and had Two Cav Divs fighting the Russkies (conquered 3 provinces for the Germans). I removed them and am now building a task force to transport my troops to the Mid East (to the area of Syria) or down through the Suez to Kuwait - want to get the Oil because then i can control lots of Resources and what not. Might even go into Iraq as they are part of the Allies right now. Lots of research - from Italians and Albanians - is being shared with me.

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