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Old December 17th, 2002, 11:32 AM
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Is this Hitler or his double?



Well, seems like everybody´s got a theory...

Various Western sources have reported that the dead body in the photo was Hitler's double (or doppelganger), a man called Gustav who was executed with a gunshot to the forehead. Some give his name as Gustav Weber, while other say he was Gustav Weler. No further attempts were made to identify him. By contrast, reports now circulate in Russia that an actor, Andreas Kronstaedt, was the impersonator who had volunteered to die in Hitler's place. This was the theme of the 1996 film, Conversation with the Beast, directed by one of Fassbinder's followers, Armin Mueller-Stahl. Meanwhile, in Germany some suspicion still points to Julius Schreck, who was Hitler's favorite driver and party member from 1921. He occasionally acted as Hitler's double because of their resemblance.
According to some reports, Schreck died in a traffic accident in 1936. Other reports say that he died from an abscessed tooth fever. To confuse matters more, Time magazine once wrote that Hitler's alleged double was Heinrich Bergner who was killed in July, 1944 when a bomb or hand grenade exploded under Hitler's table. Other publications said that a stenographer named Berger died when Colonel Claus Schenk Graf von Stauffenberg planted a bomb under Hitler's chair on July 20, 1944, at his headquarters in East Prussia. Some sources have oddly suggested that the burnt corpse found in the Chancellery garden was that of SS-Gruppenfuehrer Hermann Fegelein, husband of Eva Braun's sister, Gretl, who was stripped of his rank for committing treason and shot outside the Berlin bunker two days before Hitler's suicide.

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I don´t mean to make this a competition of any kind, but what are your opinions, Gentlemen? And ONLY opinions, as I only wish to keep this discussion entertaining and informative.

I think that it was Hitler himself and he died in Berlin! I cannot think he could have lived with the Reich occupied by the Russians and western nations. That would have been too much for him!
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Old December 17th, 2002, 01:47 PM
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Kai, I can throw one MORE explanation into the mix!
I remember seeing something on )I believe) the History channel about Hitler's body/death. One of their theories- the "doppleganger" had nothing at all to do with Hitler or the bunker! This show put forward the theory that the body displayed in that photo was simply a body found NEAR the scene which happened to resemble Hitler slightly. With all insanity happening in Berlin in the last days of the Reich, people were being killed left and right. The show I saw put forward the theory that the "doppleganger" was simply one of the many germans killed during the fighting for Berlin. When the russians found the body in the vicinity of the Bunker, they made the immediate assumption that it could have been Hitler.
I do think though that this "doppleganger" was discredited rather quickly, no? I was under the impression that whoever the "doppleganger" was, the russians figured out rather quickly that it was not Hitler.
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Lately I saw someone wearing the exact same "Hitler-beard" - yet another Hitler-double who survived the war?

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