Axis

Members: 4,571
Threads: 15,653
Posts: 195,583
Online: 149

Newest Member:
rokket

 
 
 
Go Back   World War II Forums > General Discussion > Information Requests
Register FAQ Gallery Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read


Information Requests Doing research? Working on a project? Need Help? Ask Here.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
  #1 (permalink)  
Old April 3rd, 2004, 04:19 PM
WW2F Veteran
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 2,838
Stevin has a spectacular aura aboutStevin has a spectacular aura about
Cool

Has anyone heard of a similar unit. Obviously it had to do with POWs, but does anybody know what they actually did??

Pvt. Abbott from Mississppi was with this unit and was killed in a non-hostile incident on April 25, 1945. He is buried in Margraten.

This is one of a few quite obscure units I have come across lately.

Same goes for the 500th Medical Collection Company. Anybody know what they did EXACTLY? I only found a on-line reference on the Indiana Historical Society website.

And for a last Q; What did a (US) Port Company do???

Thanks in advance all!

Stevin
__________________
"Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!" - Homer Simpson

(banner by Otto)
www.basher82.nl
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old June 4th, 2007, 09:33 PM
recruit
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 2
K.L.Ensley is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Re: 6950 Prisoner of War Overhead Detachment and 500th Medical Collection Company

Pvt. Abbott (Thomas Jefferson) was my maternal grandfather. All that I have been able to find about him (other than the information you have outlined above) is that he was killed by stepping on a mine. I have never been able to find out any relevant information regarding his unit.

I found your post quite shocking, in that you specifically mentioned my grandfather. May I ask why you referenced him in your post? I, too, am looking for any information regarding the 6950 POW Overhead Detachment.
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old June 4th, 2007, 09:56 PM
Slipdigit's Avatar
Good Ol' Boy
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Deep in the Heart of Dixie
Posts: 3,982
Slipdigit is just really niceSlipdigit is just really niceSlipdigit is just really niceSlipdigit is just really niceSlipdigit is just really niceSlipdigit is just really nice
Default Re: 6950 Prisoner of War Overhead Detachment and 500th Medical Collection Company

I'll have to dig out a book that has been packed away, but I am almost certain that a Medical Collection Company consists of ambulances. It make day or two and somebody else may have the definative answer by then.
__________________
Best Regards,
JW

Flag of the State of Alabama
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old June 4th, 2007, 10:16 PM
Slipdigit's Avatar
Good Ol' Boy
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Deep in the Heart of Dixie
Posts: 3,982
Slipdigit is just really niceSlipdigit is just really niceSlipdigit is just really niceSlipdigit is just really niceSlipdigit is just really niceSlipdigit is just really nice
Default Re: 6950 Prisoner of War Overhead Detachment and 500th Medical Collection Company

I found this:

http://history.amedd.army.mil/booksd.../EPWs/EPWs.htm

Search for text 'overhead' on the page and find this:

Planned capacity of Central Prisoner of War Enclosures in France.— Even at the beginning, Central Prisoner of War Enclosures were too few, too small, and understaffed. This led to overcrowding (fig. 34) and impeded the application of preventive medicine measures as well as the processing and handling of prisoners. The following report and comments give information about the deficient planning and its consequences.


Theater planning for the handling of enemy prisoners of war was rather unrealistic. It left much to be desired and apparently ignored the difficulty experienced in North Africa in handling a large influx of POW's. This cannot be completely laid to inadequacies in the Theater Provost Marshal's Office which was planning within the restrictions imposed by the overall concept of the operation. For instance, the planners asked for 49 Military Police Escort Guard Companies; only 19 were authorized by the War Department. As there was no T/O&E for a Prisoner of War Camp Overhead Detachment, the Theater Provost Marshal planned a provisional one and got authority to activate eight of them, one for a POW camp in England and seven for use in France. Each of these POW Camp Overhead Detachments was estimated by the planners to be able to handle 6,000 POW's. Thus the planning was geared to accommodate at any one time a total of 48,000 POW' in the eight camps. The capture rate for the first 90 days was estimated at 1,000 a day. This would require that about one-half of the number captured during the first 90 days would have to be shipped out of the theater.

I have suspicions that they were small, temporary MP units formed to guard POWs in the ComZ who were in transit camps in route to permanent camps in England or CONUS or possibly overflow camps for these transit camps.

On down on the page, there is interesting reading on my country's mistreatment of German PoWs.
__________________
Best Regards,
JW

Flag of the State of Alabama

Last edited by Slipdigit; June 4th, 2007 at 10:17 PM. Reason: removed http code
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old June 4th, 2007, 10:18 PM
Otto's Avatar
GröFaZ
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: Chicago
Posts: 4,239
Otto is a jewel in the roughOtto is a jewel in the roughOtto is a jewel in the roughOtto is a jewel in the roughOtto is a jewel in the rough
Lightbulb Re: 6950 Prisoner of War Overhead Detachment and 500th Medical Collection Company

Quote:
Originally Posted by K.L.Ensley View Post
Pvt. Abbott (Thomas Jefferson) was my maternal grandfather. All that I have been able to find about him (other than the information you have outlined above) is that he was killed by stepping on a mine. I have never been able to find out any relevant information regarding his unit.

I found your post quite shocking, in that you specifically mentioned my grandfather. May I ask why you referenced him in your post? I, too, am looking for any information regarding the 6950 POW Overhead Detachment.
KL, Stevin runs a fantastic website about the Allied casualties in the Netherlands. I'll send him an email and tell him to take another gander at this thread, he'll probably be able to help you a least a little.

Thanks also to Slipdigit for the great information. What a helpful collection of Rogues we have here!
__________________

WWII Forums Rogues Gallery - send in your photo!
Comments, questions or feedback? Contact me at

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance." Socrates
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old June 4th, 2007, 11:05 PM
recruit
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 2
K.L.Ensley is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Re: 6950 Prisoner of War Overhead Detachment and 500th Medical Collection Company

Very interesting! Thank you for all of the information and prompt responses!
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old June 5th, 2007, 03:48 AM
Slipdigit's Avatar
Good Ol' Boy
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Deep in the Heart of Dixie
Posts: 3,982
Slipdigit is just really niceSlipdigit is just really niceSlipdigit is just really niceSlipdigit is just really niceSlipdigit is just really niceSlipdigit is just really nice
Default Re: 6950 Prisoner of War Overhead Detachment and 500th Medical Collection Company

Port Company information.

http://www.qmfound.com/black_service..._in_combat.htm

From the webpage:

Quote:
The 592d Port Company, divided into three groups, landed in the fourth wave and began unloading small boats as they arrived on the beach; three of its crane operators went to the 5th Pioneer Battalion where they operated eight-ton cranes on the beach
Quote:
The 609th Port Company remained on the beach through December, unloading, sorting, and delivering supplies through continuous air raids. On 10 December a nitroglycerin explosion of unknown cause demolished its entire camp area, killing and wounding several men. Despite air raids that brought more losses and despite poor lighterage, the unit averaged two to three hundred tons for each eight-hour period.
Looks like they were mostly stevedores, man-handling equipment over the beach.
__________________
Best Regards,
JW

Flag of the State of Alabama
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old June 12th, 2007, 08:25 PM
WW2F Veteran
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 2,838
Stevin has a spectacular aura aboutStevin has a spectacular aura about
Default Re: 6950 Prisoner of War Overhead Detachment and 500th Medical Collection Company

Otto, thanks for letting me know about the posts to this thread. Very much appreciated.

There is not much I can add to this at this point. Many thanks to Slipdigit for the information. It has helped me a lot!!! Gives me a few more ideas for further investigation.

Pvt Abbott is buried at Margraten and therefor of interest to me, as I wish to include him on my website. Many thanks to K L Ensley for the additional information. I will be in contact!

Otto, thanks again for dragging me back here. It has been too long. Reading posts I realize...how much I miss it....
__________________
"Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!" - Homer Simpson

(banner by Otto)
www.basher82.nl
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Google
 

All times are GMT. The time now is 10:39 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.2.0 RC5
Copyright © 2000 - 2007, the World War II Network, all rights reserved.Ad Management by RedTyger

Allies