German Merchant Raiders

Richard · #1 (**permalink**) March 8th, 2006, 08:11 PM

Are there any sites and books on this one trying to complete my info on the German Navy?

Erich · #2 (**permalink**) March 8th, 2006, 08:59 PM

www.bismarck-class.dk/hilfskreuzer/hilfskreuzer_introduction.html

www.ahoy.tk-jk.net/macslog/MaraudersoftheSea2GermanA.html

several German sites :

www.seekrieg.de www.deutsches-marinearchiv.de

In Deutsche almost every one of the Merchant radiers has been covered by at least one author.

sone of my favourites is :

Mohr und Sellwood's "Ship 16" copyright 1956. Raider Atlantis. It has aappeared in many years since that 50's copy of mine.

"Nachtjagdleitschiff TOGO" bei Kurt Petsch, Preußischer Militär=Verlag

S.D Waters "German Raiders in the Pacific" by Merriam Press, copyright 2000

August Karl Muggenthaler "German Raiders of WW II" by Prentice Hall, copyright 1977, still found on Amazon.

Naval Institute Press from Annopalis Maryland recently or at least within the last 3 years published a book on the Atlantis with much indepth research, some of it newly discovered.

there is obviously more

Richard · #3 (**permalink**) March 8th, 2006, 09:14 PM

Thanks Erich I shall check those sites out [img]smile.gif[/img]

Erich · #4 (**permalink**) March 8th, 2006, 09:38 PM

any questions on the Raiders in particular ?

am actually looking for the book on the Orion without paying a hefty fee and also the Komoron memories where she sank the HMS Sydney in a very bizarre and almost unknow sea duel, the Sydney went off with fires and explosions and was enver seen again with loss of all her crew, the Komoron was lost with some 300 plus survivors picked up and interned in Australia. Several web-sites cover that strange sea battle.

here is a table of the tonnage sunk by the existing German craft

Richard · #5 (**permalink**) March 8th, 2006, 10:13 PM

Main area the heavily armed merchants operating in the Atlantic and Med. (if they operated in the Med.) number of armed merchants ships results and what happen to them. A very good history of these crafty ships.

Erich · #6 (**permalink**) March 8th, 2006, 10:37 PM

nothing in the Med except Kemnades Schnellboot 3. Flottille which was very effective.

Nearly all ship kills for the Raiders was SW of Afrika and near and around Australia for the most part. The "Widders" kills were grouped to the west of Afrika, all 10 of them so close to Cuba/Haiti, so the history of that craft might be of interst to you.

13 June 1940 to September 9, 1940, the last date: the 10th ship sunk, the Antonios Chandris NE of South America. Evidently the "Widder" was a mechanical nightmare for it's crew.

Richard · #7 (**permalink**) March 8th, 2006, 10:57 PM

(Heck it’s late here) just got back from a spot of reading from one of the links.

Thanks Again Erich [img]smile.gif[/img]

Richard · #8 (**permalink**) March 9th, 2006, 04:46 PM

Been reading up again on those links today great bit of reading, thanks again Erich very good. [img]graemlins/salute.gif[/img]

Erich · #9 (**permalink**) March 9th, 2006, 05:18 PM

Richard I would still advise finding a book on the Atlantis for some first hand acct.'s and the pics. It is probably the most written about raider.

keep at it.

"Du bist nicht am Ende wenn du verlierst, du bist am Ende wenn du aufgibst!" [img]graemlins/rk.gif[/img]

Richard · #10 (**permalink**) March 9th, 2006, 09:22 PM

I agree Erich websites are a good stop gap while I look around for a book. After all you can not beat a good book to read. [img]smile.gif[/img]

Erich · #11 (**permalink**) March 9th, 2006, 09:31 PM

just remember that the information on the net was done through research from former vets, and much archival documentation plus BOOKS.

Richard do you understand German at all ?

Richard · #12 (**permalink**) March 9th, 2006, 10:03 PM

No

Don't tell me a number of top notch books are in German. [img]redface.gif[/img]