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Old October 3rd, 2007, 02:07 PM
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Question KC and the FW 200 pilots

Just reading the " Hurricat" book and to me it seems rather many of the FW 200 pilots received the Knight´s Cross...??

Fliegel, Daser, Verlohr, Buchholz, Jope, Bernhard Petersen...

Just wondering if there´s a site or a book the FW 200 KC pilots and their actions?

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Kai tell me more of the hurricat book please

well check but yes quite a few chaps earned the RK from KG 40 flying the low flying Kondor, that was to be replaced by the excellent and almost stealth Ju 290 but under different directions - more recon that anti-ship bomber

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Old October 3rd, 2007, 03:49 PM
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Kai I do not think but may be wrong that there has not been a book written on the whole of KG 40. there should be in my opinion....

Obermaier prodcued a two volume set on the Luftwaffe RK winners covering the fighter aces as well as the Schlacht/bomber, but I do not have the latter so cannot say if the Kondor pilots/crewmen are covered or not. I will check my German source(s) to find out.

here a nice little photo packaged soft bound book if interested :

Luftwaffe at War series, The Sea Eagles by Peter C. Smith

Sea Eagles by Chris Goss..........two volumes both exceptional covers basically all the anti-shipping types of craft with a bit of background history as KG 40 Kondors are the cruzxof the 2 volumes. Produced in the Luftwaffe Colours series by Classic Publications

OOP German Maritime A/C by Bryan Philpott

OOP Profile Pubs Fw 200 # 99

there are at least 2 German pubs OOP covering the air war over the Atlantic
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Old October 3rd, 2007, 05:21 PM
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from my friend Larry's exhaustive study reports :

I./KG 100
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Sep 43: Biscay operations concluded, returned to Istres on 9 September and began a series of successful attacks on Allied ships off the Salerno invasion beaches in South Italy between 11 and 17 September. The Group shared (with III./KG 100) in a number of hits that sank the hospital ship New Foundland and damaged the cruisers USS Savannah, USS Philadelphia and HMS Uganda and the Royal Navy destroyers Loyal and Nubian. Five Do 217s were lost by the Gruppe on these missions over the Gulf of Salerno or over the beachhead area. Two British landing craft were sunk in the Corsican harbor of Ajaccio during an attack by 11 planes on 30 September, 2 of which failed to return.
Kommandeur:
Maj. Franz Hollweck (7 May 43 - 10 Sep 43)
Hptm. Heinz Molinnus (10 Sep 43 - 4 Oct 43) KIA

III./KG 100
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Sep 43: following an unsuccessful strike on vessels in the Straits of Messina on 5 September that cost a K-2 and crew (6N+CD), the Gruppe’s big moment finally came in the afternoon of 9 September when it attacked Italy’s main fleet off the northeast coast of Sardinia, where it was underway from La Spezia and Genoa to Allied ports to surrender. The attack was carried out in Staffel- strength under perfect visual conditions, permitting pin-point accuracy with the guided weapons. The battleship Roma was hit twice and sank within an hour, while further hits were scored on the battleship Italia and two destroyers that caused heavy damage. Between 11 and 16 September multiple missions were flown against Allied warships off the invasion beaches at Salerno in South Italy, during which the RN battleship Warspite was heavily damaged and the RN battleship Valiant lightly damaged on 16 September. Two Do 217Ks were lost on these missions. Several more operations were flown in the same target area on 18 and 19 September at a cost of one more Dornier and crew. On 20 September 8.Staffel was ordered to depart Istres for Schwäbisch Hall to begin conversion to the Heinkel He 177, later moving to Fassberg.
Kommandeur:
Hptm. Ernst Hetzel (DKG) (4 May 43 - 28 Jul 43)
Hptm. Bernhard Jope (DKG, RK, EL) (28 Jul 43 - 10 Sep 43)
Hptm. Gerhard Döhler (10 Sep 43 - ? )


Balke, Ulf. Kampfgeschwader 100 “Wiking”: Eine Geschichte aus Kriegstagebüchern, Dokumenten und Berichten 1934-1945. (Stuttgart: Motorbuch Verlag, 1981).

The book's author, a highly respected German WW II aviation historian, has little to say about the 11 September attack on Savannah and Philadelphia (see p.265). In fact, he is not certain whether it was an Hs or an FX that hit and damaged the cruisers (see p.347). There were no aircraft or personnel lost on this mission. Unfortunately, he does not identify the crews taking part in the attack, so your conviction that Jope flew or commanded the aircraft that released the guided weapon cannot be confirmed from the Geschwader's unit history. However he does say that Jope was ordered to Rome on 7 September to meet with the chief of staff of Luftflotte 2 and ordered in utter secrecy to prepare for an attack on La Spezia. After Jope returned to Istres, the attack was flown on 9 September and at 1540 hrs a PC 1400 X aimed and release by Unteroffizier Klapproth in Jope's plane struck the Roma in the afterdeck. After that, the Roma was hit several more times by PC 1400 X weapons from other aircraft. The next day, 10 September, Jope was appointed Geschwader Kommodore and busied himself taking over responsibility for the entire Geschwader. There is not the slighest evidence from this material that Jope flew on the 11 September. Unless conclusive proof comes to light, I would have to say that he did not fly on the Savannah mission. Jope was awarded the Ritterkreuz as an Oberleutnant and Staffelkapitan of 2./KG 40 on 30 December 1940, so that has nothing to do with KG 100. He was awarded the Eichenlaub on 24 March 1944, and the citation makes no mention of the 11 September 1943 mission.

JOPE, Bernhard. (RE, DKG). 01.07.39 Oblt., trf from I./KG 88 to KG 77. 12.06.43 Hptm., appt Kdr. IV./KG 100 (to 27.07.43). 28.07.43 Hptm., appt Kdr. III./KG 100 (to 10.09.43). 01.08.43 promo to Maj. 10.09.43 appt Kommodore KG 100 (to 20.08.44). 17.10.44 appt Kommodore KG 30 (to 23.11.44), then KG (J) 30 (to 03.45). 01.01.45 promo to Obstlt.






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interesting note ..... if you go to the Axis History Forum, and go to the Forum Merchandise, all they have are t-shirts emblazoned with the forum motto, which appears to be....


"Information not shared is lost!"


...am I the only one that sees a dichotomy here???

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Kai are you interested in photos as well on the members, or just bio info's ?
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Thanx alot Erich!

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