Axis

Members: 6,355
Threads: 18,251
Posts: 228,105
Online: 176

Newest Member:
hippykiller

 
 
 
Go Back   World War II Forums > General Discussion > Information Requests
Register FAQ Gallery Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read


Information Requests Doing research? Working on a project? Need Help? Ask Here.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
  #1 (permalink)  
Old December 29th, 2007, 08:09 AM
recruit
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 3
Salute!: 0
Saluted 0 Times in 0 Posts
vlesage is an unknown quantity at this point
Question Belgium Location

My grandfather was in WWII and I have been sorting through some old photos. I have one marked with 'Jimippe' Belgium 1945 but I am unable to locate this city or province. Is it possible that the city could be mispelled or go by another name today?
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old December 29th, 2007, 08:32 AM
Skipper's Avatar
Kommodore
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: France
Posts: 6,994
Salute!: 64
Saluted 65 Times in 52 Posts
Skipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to all
Default Re: Belgium Location

Hello Vlesage. I immediately recognized a mispelling of the town of JENAPPES which is a Belgian Walloon town near Brussels. Jenappes is famous for at least three battles: 1792 during the French Revoluntionary war, an offensive during WWI and combats during WWII.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old December 29th, 2007, 10:53 AM
Sturmkreuz's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Flanders
Posts: 639
Salute!: 0
Saluted 0 Times in 0 Posts
Sturmkreuz Is actually quite decentSturmkreuz Is actually quite decentSturmkreuz Is actually quite decent
Default Re: Belgium Location

Quote:
Originally Posted by Skipper67 View Post
Hello Vlesage. I immediately recognized a mispelling of the town of JENAPPES which is a Belgian Walloon town near Brussels. Jenappes is famous for at least three battles: 1792 during the French Revoluntionary war, an offensive during WWI and combats during WWII.
Or change the I's with E's
__________________
Soldat: Adam Weinberger
Dienstgrab: (Ober)Gefreiter
Vermisst: Januar(y) 1943 / Stadt Stalingrad
Einheit: (Nebel)Werfer-Regiment 51
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old December 29th, 2007, 11:21 AM
Skipper's Avatar
Kommodore
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: France
Posts: 6,994
Salute!: 64
Saluted 65 Times in 52 Posts
Skipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to all
Default Re: Belgium Location

Is there another town called Jinappis in Belgium? Well then it would be interesting to compare the said towns by looking at "now and then" pictures. Vlesage would it be possible to post one or two pictures?
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old December 29th, 2007, 11:28 AM
Sturmkreuz's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Flanders
Posts: 639
Salute!: 0
Saluted 0 Times in 0 Posts
Sturmkreuz Is actually quite decentSturmkreuz Is actually quite decentSturmkreuz Is actually quite decent
Default Re: Belgium Location

Quote:
Originally Posted by Skipper67 View Post
Is there another town called Jinappis in Belgium? Well then it would be interesting to compare the said towns by looking at "now and then" pictures. Vlesage would it be possible to post one or two pictures?
Search "Jemeppe"
__________________
Soldat: Adam Weinberger
Dienstgrab: (Ober)Gefreiter
Vermisst: Januar(y) 1943 / Stadt Stalingrad
Einheit: (Nebel)Werfer-Regiment 51
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old December 29th, 2007, 11:52 AM
Skipper's Avatar
Kommodore
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: France
Posts: 6,994
Salute!: 64
Saluted 65 Times in 52 Posts
Skipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to all
Default Re: Belgium Location

Correct. With an English pronunciation "Jemeppe" could have easily been spelled "Jimippe" by anglophones. So now we have two possible towns.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old December 29th, 2007, 12:06 PM
Sturmkreuz's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Flanders
Posts: 639
Salute!: 0
Saluted 0 Times in 0 Posts
Sturmkreuz Is actually quite decentSturmkreuz Is actually quite decentSturmkreuz Is actually quite decent
Default Re: Belgium Location

Quote:
Originally Posted by Skipper67 View Post
Correct. With an English pronunciation "Jemeppe" could have easily been spelled "Jimippe" by anglophones. So now we have two possible towns.
Indeed
__________________
Soldat: Adam Weinberger
Dienstgrab: (Ober)Gefreiter
Vermisst: Januar(y) 1943 / Stadt Stalingrad
Einheit: (Nebel)Werfer-Regiment 51
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old December 29th, 2007, 12:16 PM
Skipper's Avatar
Kommodore
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: France
Posts: 6,994
Salute!: 64
Saluted 65 Times in 52 Posts
Skipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to all
Default Re: Belgium Location

Jemeppe sur Sambre is near Namur

To be noticed Luftwaffe Ace Schnauffer got a Halifax that crashed at Jemeppe in 1943.

There are Commonwealth graves at the local cemetery too.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old December 29th, 2007, 02:52 PM
sommecourt's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: UK/France
Posts: 559
Salute!: 5
Saluted 6 Times in 2 Posts
sommecourt has a spectacular aura aboutsommecourt has a spectacular aura about
Default Re: Belgium Location

If you mean the small village, now a virtual suburb of Mons, it is spelt Jemappes not Jemeppe or Jenappes. I have been there many times, and that is how it is spelt on all the road signs and Belgian IGN maps I have.
__________________
Paul Reed
Webmaster - Battlefields of WW2- http://www.ww2battlefields.info
D Day Ancestors: The British Army in Normandy - http://www.ddayancestors.com
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old December 29th, 2007, 02:52 PM
sommecourt's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: UK/France
Posts: 559
Salute!: 5
Saluted 6 Times in 2 Posts
sommecourt has a spectacular aura aboutsommecourt has a spectacular aura about
Default Re: Belgium Location

Google map link here:

Google Maps
__________________
Paul Reed
Webmaster - Battlefields of WW2- http://www.ww2battlefields.info
D Day Ancestors: The British Army in Normandy - http://www.ddayancestors.com
Reply With Quote
  #11 (permalink)  
Old December 29th, 2007, 03:51 PM
Skipper's Avatar
Kommodore
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: France
Posts: 6,994
Salute!: 64
Saluted 65 Times in 52 Posts
Skipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to all
Default Re: Belgium Location

Thanks Sommecourt. I meant Jemappes with an M. However jemeppe is a different place that also exists near Namur and I now believe this could be the one. I wish Vlesage would show us a picture so we could confirm which place we are talking about.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #12 (permalink)  
Old December 29th, 2007, 05:04 PM
recruit
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 3
Salute!: 0
Saluted 0 Times in 0 Posts
vlesage is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Re: Belgium Location

Thank you for all of the replies. I see that there could be several options with the spelling. Here is the picture. Unfortunately it is a group shot with only a small area of viewable background.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg Jimippe, Belgium 1945.jpg (187.3 KB, 11 views)
Reply With Quote
  #13 (permalink)  
Old December 29th, 2007, 05:13 PM
Skipper's Avatar
Kommodore
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: France
Posts: 6,994
Salute!: 64
Saluted 65 Times in 52 Posts
Skipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to all
Default Re: Belgium Location

Thanks Vlesage. The shape of the house would be easy to recognize in a small place, but someone would need to go to the village for the comparison. Another option would be to send an email to a local administration and ask someone to recognize the picture for you. By googling with "Jemeppe" you will probably find the official town site .
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #14 (permalink)  
Old December 29th, 2007, 08:19 PM
arneken's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: wevelgem (Belgium)
Posts: 246
Salute!: 1
Saluted 0 Times in 0 Posts
arneken will become famous soon enough
Default Re: Belgium Location

actually there are 2 jemeppe's.

one in the province namur end the other in the province liege.
coloured areas are the provinces:


one is called jemeppe sur sambre (namur) the others is jemeppe sur meuse. (liege)

I could not find info in dutch about these cities and they're connection with ww2. so I really can't help you much further.

greet Arne
__________________
Sixty-four bomber pilots and crew lie in the cemetery at Wevelgem Communal and today many locals still pay their respects to those brave men from high in the skies.
Reply With Quote
  #15 (permalink)  
Old December 29th, 2007, 11:02 PM
Wessex Wyvern's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Wilts UK
Posts: 905
Salute!: 2
Saluted 12 Times in 7 Posts
Wessex Wyvern is a jewel in the roughWessex Wyvern is a jewel in the roughWessex Wyvern is a jewel in the roughWessex Wyvern is a jewel in the roughWessex Wyvern is a jewel in the rough
Default Re: Belgium Location

What Unit was he in?
That would help narrow it down by looking at the movements of said unit.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #16 (permalink)  
Old December 30th, 2007, 12:54 AM
Skipper's Avatar
Kommodore
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: France
Posts: 6,994
Salute!: 64
Saluted 65 Times in 52 Posts
Skipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to all
Default Re: Belgium Location

Thanks Arneken, so now we have three possibilities, the more the merrier.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #17 (permalink)  
Old December 31st, 2007, 05:52 AM
recruit
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 3
Salute!: 0
Saluted 0 Times in 0 Posts
vlesage is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Re: Belgium Location

The only information I have been able to find so far is: 514th Coastal Artillery A Battery and 363rd AAA SLBN (Searchlight Battalion?) 15CM. Not sure which he was attached to during my previous photo from 1945.
Reply With Quote
  #18 (permalink)  
Old December 31st, 2007, 08:20 AM
Skipper's Avatar
Kommodore
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: France
Posts: 6,994
Salute!: 64
Saluted 65 Times in 52 Posts
Skipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to all
Default Re: Belgium Location

I's asume a searchligt battalion would be more likely to transit through the Namur area which is far from the coast.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #19 (permalink)  
Old December 31st, 2007, 12:30 PM
arneken's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: wevelgem (Belgium)
Posts: 246
Salute!: 1
Saluted 0 Times in 0 Posts
arneken will become famous soon enough
Default Re: Belgium Location

found some info but I'm not sure if it helps a bit?

World War II

The 108th Air Defense Artillery Brigade traces its lineage to the 514th Coast Artillery Regiment (Antiaircraft), which was formed in Schenectady, New York in October, 1923. The Regiment was reorganized as the 108th Coast Artillery Group (Antiaircraft) in January, 1943, and again reorganized as the 108th Antiaircraft Artillery Group, in May of the same year.
The Group deployed to Europe during World War II, and participated in the landings at Normandy, going ashore at Utah Beach. The 108th then went on to provide antiaircraft defense for the city and port of Cherbourg, for eleven months, and then moved forward to the cities of Rheims and Rouen. The Group was deactivated in December, 1945, in Germany.
__________________
Sixty-four bomber pilots and crew lie in the cemetery at Wevelgem Communal and today many locals still pay their respects to those brave men from high in the skies.
Reply With Quote
  #20 (permalink)  
Old December 31st, 2007, 01:01 PM
Skipper's Avatar
Kommodore
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: France
Posts: 6,994
Salute!: 64
Saluted 65 Times in 52 Posts
Skipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to allSkipper is a name known to all
Default Re: Belgium Location

Interesting facts Arneken. This is precisely my point: with the exception of Rheims, all these places are coastal areas. Therfore the searchlight batallion would be a good lead.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #21 (permalink)  
Old December 31st, 2007, 01:04 PM
arneken's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: wevelgem (Belgium)
Posts: 246
Salute!: 1
Saluted 0 Times in 0 Posts
arneken will become famous soon enough
Default Re: Belgium Location

oké little question about that. I'm not good in those letters so AAA and SLBN any idea what that mean?
__________________
Sixty-four bomber pilots and crew lie in the cemetery at Wevelgem Communal and today many locals still pay their respects to those brave men from high in the skies.
Reply With Quote