|
|  |
 |
Members: 4,555
Threads: 15,625
Posts: 195,315
Online: 160
Newest Member:
GregP |
|
|
| Information Requests Doing research? Working on a project? Need Help? Ask Here. |
February 11th, 2008, 03:55 AM
|
|
Dishonorably Discharged
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 297
|
|
"It wasn't only for Deutschland" -Hitler
I'm pretty sure he said this cause The Downfall is really accurate, he told this to Mohnke. What do you think he meant?
|
February 11th, 2008, 10:29 PM
|
|
Member
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Libreville, Gabon
Posts: 24
|
|
Re: "It wasn't only for Deutschland" -Hitler
In his twisted logic he must have thought he was saving the entire Western civilization (Britain, France, US included) against what he thought was Jewish-Bolshevik decadence and savagery.
The war in the West, however horrifying it surely was in reality, was much more of a 'gentlemans' war than in Russia, where he did not wage war with the aim to conquer, but to eradicate.....
|
February 12th, 2008, 04:34 AM
|
|
Dishonorably Discharged
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 297
|
|
Re: "It wasn't only for Deutschland" -Hitler
Quote:
Originally Posted by Piron
In his twisted logic he must have thought he was saving the entire Western civilization (Britain, France, US included) against what he thought was Jewish-Bolshevik decadence and savagery.
The war in the West, however horrifying it surely was in reality, was much more of a 'gentlemans' war than in Russia, where he did not wage war with the aim to conquer, but to eradicate.....
|
true. |
February 13th, 2008, 03:09 AM
|
|
Dishonorably Discharged
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 297
|
|
Re: "It wasn't only for Deutschland" -Hitler
what do you mean by eradicate?
|
February 13th, 2008, 10:09 PM
|
|
Member
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Libreville, Gabon
Posts: 24
|
|
Re: "It wasn't only for Deutschland" -Hitler
eradicate means what it means, pretty clear to me...
but if you insist:
basically empty the Russian steppe of Untermenschen (jews, peasants, communists, he wasn't picky  ) so that the Aryans could have their Lebensraum. Ok some could be left behind to be slaves for the Germans |
February 14th, 2008, 05:06 AM
|
|
Dishonorably Discharged
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 297
|
|
Re: "It wasn't only for Deutschland" -Hitler
something just occurred to me, Hitler didn't know America/Great Britain were allied with the Soviet Union so he probably said that because he knew he tried to eradicate the Bolshevik threat from taking Europe. -which they ended up doing, well half of it anyway.
|
February 14th, 2008, 10:06 AM
|
 |
WW2F Veteran
|
|
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Beltring
Posts: 1,699
|
|
Re: "It wasn't only for Deutschland" -Hitler
Downfall/Der Untergang is a film.
Why not try and work with genuine Hitler Quotes, or commentary from those that knew him rather than speculate on one from a dramatisation.
It's like studying Richard Harris for an insight into Cromwell...
Cheers,
Adam.
__________________
"Wars cannot be fought with dream stuff" - Sir Percy Hobart.
|
February 15th, 2008, 04:25 PM
|
 |
Member
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Off the Map
Posts: 466
|
|
Re: "It wasn't only for Deutschland" -Hitler
Quote:
Originally Posted by PactOfSteel
what do you mean by eradicate?
|
...  
__________________
"Live as brave men; and if fortune is adverse, front its blows with brave hearts." - Cicero
|
February 15th, 2008, 05:02 PM
|
 |
Member
|
|
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Flanders
Posts: 639
|
|
Re: "It wasn't only for Deutschland" -Hitler
In my honest opinion.
I specialize myself in German History. But I'm not sure if he really did say that or why he said it.
But If you want me to say something:
I think he ment that it wasn't only "Für Deutschland" but for all who were 100% Aryan and the National-Socialists in the other countries.
Not including the Muslims! They were in the Waffen-SS too but they just were Cannonmeat '"Kanonnenvlees".
For all German speakers and for all the people who thought just the same "Deutschland über alles".
__________________
Soldat: Adam Weinberger Dienstgrab: (Ober)Gefreiter Vermisst: Januar(y) 1943 / Stadt Stalingrad Einheit: (Nebel)Werfer-Regiment 51
|
February 15th, 2008, 07:25 PM
|
 |
Ace
|
|
Join Date: May 2003
Location: The world is my backside, hmm, backyard!
Posts: 6,113
|
|
Re: "It wasn't only for Deutschland" -Hitler
SK, what was the exact full quote?
__________________
Bah!
|
February 15th, 2008, 07:41 PM
|
|
Member
|
|
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Flanders
Posts: 639
|
|
Re: "It wasn't only for Deutschland" -Hitler
Quote:
Originally Posted by Za Rodinu
SK, what was the exact full quote?
|
Quote:
|
Leon Degrelle is one of the most famous Waffen SS soldiers. After joining as a private he earned all stripes from corporal to general for exceptional bravery in combat. He engaged in seventy-five hand-to-hand combat actions. He was wounded on numerous occasions. He was the recipient of the highest honors: The Ritterkreuz, the Oak-Leaves, the Gold German Cross and numerous other decorations for outstanding valor under enemy fire. One of the last to fight on the Eastern Front, Leon Degrelle escaped unconditional surrender by flying some 1500 miles across Europe toward Spain. He managed to survive constant fire all along the way and crash landed on the beach of San Sebastian in Spain, critically wounded.
|
This is it.
__________________
Soldat: Adam Weinberger Dienstgrab: (Ober)Gefreiter Vermisst: Januar(y) 1943 / Stadt Stalingrad Einheit: (Nebel)Werfer-Regiment 51
|
February 15th, 2008, 08:13 PM
|
|
Ace
|
|
Join Date: May 2003
Location: The world is my backside, hmm, backyard!
Posts: 6,113
|
|
Re: "It wasn't only for Deutschland" -Hitler
Hmm, I was meaning that Hitler utterance...
__________________
Bah!
|
February 15th, 2008, 08:14 PM
|
|
Member
|
|
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Flanders
Posts: 639
|
|
Re: "It wasn't only for Deutschland" -Hitler
Quote:
Originally Posted by Za Rodinu
Hmm, I was meaning that Hitler utterance...
|
I don't know. From Cannonmeat it was my own sentence.
__________________
Soldat: Adam Weinberger Dienstgrab: (Ober)Gefreiter Vermisst: Januar(y) 1943 / Stadt Stalingrad Einheit: (Nebel)Werfer-Regiment 51
|
February 15th, 2008, 09:01 PM
|
 |
Member
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Norway
Posts: 704
|
|
Re: "It wasn't only for Deutschland" -Hitler
This is what I enjoy with the forum. Quality!
Where else can you discuss the "between the lines" of half a quote from a movie of a historical figure. 
__________________
'We march. The enemy is retreating in transport. We follow on foot.' Lt.Neil McCallum 5/7 Gordons 19th November 1942
|
February 15th, 2008, 10:04 PM
|
|
Ace
|
|
Join Date: May 2003
Location: The world is my backside, hmm, backyard!
Posts: 6,113
|
|
Re: "It wasn't only for Deutschland" -Hitler
Shouldn't we forget about this thread? In any case the originator went 'cold' already 
__________________
Bah!
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
All times are GMT. The time now is 05:45 AM.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0 Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.2.0 RC5
Copyright © 2000 - 2007, the World War II Network, all rights reserved.Ad Management by RedTyger
|
 |
