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Old February 17th, 2008, 12:26 AM
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Default I have a report JFK WWII

I have a report for school......What happened to JFK when his PT-109 was rammed....ANyone know what was the name of the Destroyer that rammed him
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here is a website dedicated to JFK and his PT-109 incident.

John F. Kennedy and PT109 - John F. Kennedy Presidential Library & Museum

and here is the reports on the destroyer

Around 2 a.m., according to Navy reports, the Japanese destroyer Amagiri was speeding through the area. It's unclear if the destroyer deliberately rammed PT-109. In the dark of the night, it may not have seen the small boat, which was less than 90 feet long.

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For the most part, the members of this forum are interested in helping you with obtaining information, but are not willing to do your work for you.

You need to be more specific in what you are seeking and be sure to include what information you have acquired already. We would like to see some work on your part.

There have been many high school and college students who have joined this forum seeking information and were able to demonstrate that they had done the work required by the assignment and were consulting us for another source or sources. We were more than happy to help them.
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Uh, I'll take credit for that one.
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Well, I can tell you what almost happened afterward, he faced a general court martial which Halsey and MacArthur were in favor of for loosing two men and the boat. His Dad got involved back home and turned it into a story for the press.

A late friend of mine who was a member of that squadron relayed to me that the general thinking was, Lt. jg had become separated from the patrol group on his first combat mission, had become disoriented in the dark, ordered the engines out of gear, and was adrift at the time of collision. Not quite what had been portrayed in the 1963 film.
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Old February 17th, 2008, 08:52 AM
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I have to agree with Jeff. Too many requests for members to do legwork for student assignments. Rather defeats the object of personal research - which is a LOT more than finding the nearest Forum and shouting "HELP!!" Yes, there are events where information may be diffiicult to find but PT-109? Come on, B-17engineer, it's one of the most famous incidents of WWII. Google "pt 109" and you get 3.25 million hits!

Fellow members, sorry for the rant. Sometimes, things just need pointing out.

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Yes, there are events where information may be diffiicult to find but PT-109? Come on, B-17engineer, it's one of the most famous incidents of WWII. Google "pt 109" and you get 3.25 million hits!
I guess that depends on your part of the world, in Australia we arn't taught much about other countries in the wars just the basics, more about australian's then anything, I was never taught about Pt190 or JFK, frankly he means nothing to me cause I am not american, this guy seems young so maybe we should go a little easier on him.
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Thank you, Thank you! I just finished a 300 page biography and it didn't have the name of the destroyer. I appreciate the help and if you esnt ill tell you how I do.


GPRegt, I kept looking for the name and couldn't find it. THats why I came here. And i really Appreciate the help. Someone can close the thread if it makes you happy. I just needed the name and no more


Wait, after I do my work cited ill ill send you guys a link? So I cna show you I did cite you and gave credit. Fair enough?

Can someone give me an example on how to cite it

Like i you may close the thread i need no further help
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You must remember that even most of us here(except the ww2 veterans) are getting information from another source such as websites, books, documentarys' and so on, so crediting any one here for finding information that was accessable to you just isn't right. But we are always ready to assist you but with limits.

oh and sorry Slipdigit for not putting your name on the quote.
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Ok I got it and thanks
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I have to agree with Jeff. Too many requests for members to do legwork for student assignments.
Hey Jeff, do we have that many requests of this kind? Must be, for a 14-post member to protest so bitterly
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This is a quote that one of the other memebers wrote in another tread to someone else requesting info.

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For the most part, the members of this forum are interested in helping you with obtaining information, but are not willing to do your work for you.

You need to be more specific in what you are seeking and be sure to include what information you have acquired already. We would like to see some work on your part.

There have been many high school and college students who have joined this forum seeking information and were able to demonstrate that they had done the work required by the assignment and were consulting us for another source or sources. We were more than happy to help them.
Perhaps this could become an announcement for all to read before they post there questions?
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Default Re: I have a report JFK WWII

tomcat - point taken. FYI, I didn't learn about PT-109 in school either. It's just a part of my overall knowledge. Nevertheless, apologies for going OTT.

Sorry, B-17engineer. the tone of my post may have appeared rude - not intended. Your post seemed to imply that you had not searched for anything about PT-109 - What happened to JFK when his PT-109 was rammed... - in your later post you clarify that it was really the name of the destroyer that you had had difficulty in finding.

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No problem at all
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Well, shoot, you didn't tell us you had already done the leg work. I don't mind helping those who have already helped themselves

http://navalhistory.flixco.info/G/105008x9/8330/a0.htm

Amagiri (DD-45) Destroyer of World War Two

National Geographic Photo: Japanese Destroyer Amagiri (PT-109)
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National Geographic Website?

My experiences with military documentary's have proven they are not always right and the historians presenting, push there own opinions to be as fact and if you don't know the truth already you think they are telling facts.

But being from you Slipdigit I'll trust ya

and nice info on the Amagiri.
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Yes I have done the legwork and I just couldn't find the NAME of the Destroyer I already Have the report mostly done i was just missing the name. I already did help got the poster to together and I was gonna put the name because I thought it would be nice for my teacher adn people to know.

I know when he was born family memebers. I know what happened when it got rammed and after and I just like I only wanted the Name and nothinig more

Sorry for not making it clear guys...
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National Geographic Website?

My experiences with military documentary's have proven they are not always right and the historians presenting, push there own opinions to be as fact and if you don't know the truth already you think they are telling facts.

But being from you Slipdigit I'll trust ya

and nice info on the Amagiri.
I would have preferred a source published in a book, but since he didn't ask for one.

I didn't think that his teacher would accept me as a source, that was one ships whose name I could remember.
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